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Old 01-27-2010, 11:12 AM  
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Old 04-19-2010, 08:12 PM   #556
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Does that not prove what I'm saying?
No, not the way I read what you're saying.
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Old 04-19-2010, 08:24 PM   #557
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Also, Hulu is working on an iPad app. There goes another one of the last bastions of "iPad needs flash" thinking.
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Old 04-19-2010, 09:09 PM   #558
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No, not the way I read what you're saying.
then either you are reading me wrong or you don't know how software development works.

Regardless, my point IS proven. Safari is based on webkit and since webkit doesn't have support for drag/drop they had to implement their own version of it... a version that clearly is different than Chrome's... which is why gmail drag/drop doesn't work in Safari... eventually google will program for it... but as I stated already, these things take time... and in a few months when that is done... where are we? one maybe two features closer to html5?

Tell ya what, let's meet back in 6 months and see exactly how much has drastically changed.... I DO NOT gamble, but I'm more than willing to bet on this...
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Old 04-19-2010, 09:12 PM   #559
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Also, Hulu is working on an iPad app. There goes another one of the last bastions of "iPad needs flash" thinking.
yay, another APP, so I get to d/l a Hulu app, and a CNN app and a widget.com app... fun stuff.

I'm happy it works for you, but most of us aren't willing to sacrifice functionality for a sleek design.
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Old 04-19-2010, 09:28 PM   #560
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then either you are reading me wrong or you don't know how software development works.

Regardless, my point IS proven. Safari is based on webkit and since webkit doesn't have support for drag/drop they had to implement their own version of it... a version that clearly is different than Chrome's... which is why gmail drag/drop doesn't work in Safari... eventually google will program for it... but as I stated already, these things take time... and in a few months when that is done... where are we? one maybe two features closer to html5?

Tell ya what, let's meet back in 6 months and see exactly how much has drastically changed.... I DO NOT gamble, but I'm more than willing to bet on this...
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yay, another APP, so I get to d/l a Hulu app, and a CNN app and a widget.com app... fun stuff.

I'm happy it works for you, but most of us aren't willing to sacrifice functionality for a sleek design.
functionality? flash is functionality?
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Old 04-19-2010, 09:29 PM   #561
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yay, another APP, so I get to d/l a Hulu app, and a CNN app and a widget.com app... fun stuff.

I'm happy it works for you, but most of us aren't willing to sacrifice functionality for a sleek design.
Who is "us"? According to this site, which tracks unique iPads through their advertising network, they estimate over 800k have been sold in just over 2 weeks (I don't believe any official numbers have been released). That's US-only, and without the 3G model being available. I'd say it's selling extremely well...

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Old 04-19-2010, 09:53 PM   #562
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yay, another APP, so I get to d/l a Hulu app, and a CNN app and a widget.com app... fun stuff.

I'm happy it works for you, but most of us aren't willing to sacrifice functionality for a sleek design.
Please tell me how pressing the app button is any different than navigating to the web browser and then scrolling down to the bookmark.

In this sense, the apps are no more complicated than links.
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Old 04-19-2010, 09:56 PM   #563
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Please tell me how pressing the app button is any different than navigating to the web browser and then scrolling down to the bookmark.

In this sense, the apps are no more complicated than links.
He'll argue cluttering the home screen.
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Old 04-19-2010, 10:32 PM   #564
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He'll argue cluttering the home screen.
No, I'll argue that it's not a sustainable model when you need a different app for every site... That's fine if you visit 20 or so sites, but I go to considerably more.

What if ChiefsPlanet had a significant amount of flash or video... do you honestly expect me to program an iphone app for the site? I imagine a number of sites feel the same way.
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Old 04-19-2010, 10:34 PM   #565
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Okay.




functionality? flash is functionality?
yes it is. Is it perfect? no, but if you want to put your head in the sand and ignore it, that's your choice... I just think it's silly to do so.
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Old 04-20-2010, 01:44 AM   #566
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No, I'll argue that it's not a sustainable model when you need a different app for every site... That's fine if you visit 20 or so sites, but I go to considerably more.

What if ChiefsPlanet had a significant amount of flash or video... do you honestly expect me to program an iphone app for the site? I imagine a number of sites feel the same way.
It IS a sustainable model... as proven by the hundreds of thousands of apps in the app store. Just sayin'.

If CP had a significant amount of flash or video, I'd just wait to access it until I was at my computer.
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Old 04-20-2010, 05:18 AM   #567
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No, I'll argue that it's not a sustainable model when you need a different app for every site... That's fine if you visit 20 or so sites, but I go to considerably more.

What if ChiefsPlanet had a significant amount of flash or video... do you honestly expect me to program an iphone app for the site? I imagine a number of sites feel the same way.
Actually, many sites are doing just that. Moreover, they have flash degrading pages for the main browsers so that if someone has it blocked or uninstalled, they get the same content in a different codec.

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yes it is. Is it perfect? no, but if you want to put your head in the sand and ignore it, that's your choice... I just think it's silly to do so.
I don't see how saying it's dying is putting my head in the sand and ignoring it. Otherwise, how could I observe that it sucks tremendous balls.

And aside from perhaps emulators flash isn't really functional. Unless you count ads, which I never do.

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It IS a sustainable model... as proven by the hundreds of thousands of apps in the app store. Just sayin'.

If CP had a significant amount of flash or video, I'd just wait to access it until I was at my computer.
Exactly.
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Interesting factoid of the day: AustinChief now has 57 posts in this thread. He's posted 3,818 times on the site, which means that this thread accounts for 1.5% of AustinChief's total posts.
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Old 04-28-2010, 10:34 AM   #569
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Old 04-28-2010, 10:38 AM   #570
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One thing I'm not liking about the iPad.... is the apps created for the iPhone screen that they lazily ported over for the iPad with no regard for different screen size. So you're looking at this tiny little iPhone sized app on the big iPad screen. You can zoom in on it, but that's just makes it look worse.

I have to admit that book reading is much better than I expected.
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