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So a little more of America dies tonight....

Direckshun and Pen and others will cheer. A new entitlement program will be added to the list of already broken programs. Health Care. Bribed votes, broken promises and a tax bill the American people cannot afford have just won the day. Be proud, Democrats. You have managed to **** the country over. Ah, but we know you care little about that. You care not for health care reform but about winning at any cost.

Do not cry in the coming years when your rates go up. Do not cry in the coming years when the level of your service goes down. Do not cry in the coming years when more jobs are lost.Do not cry as our deficits keep going further and further into the red. Do not cry when your parents or loved ones are denied coverage or treatment because the HHS says so. Do not cry when Health Care joins the ranks of Social Security and Medicare.......BROKE!


You asked for it. You are going to get it.
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:28 PM   #2
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It will become an embedded part of our nation's identity, Pete. Like Medicare, and like Social Security. Programs that need reform but are among the most compassionate and appreciated programs this country offers its citizens.

We are a new country after this, alright. We join the ranks of most of the civilized world that has nonetheless gone much farther than us.

You should not go broke because you get sick. Under this new law, I believe that medical bankruptcy is still possible, but much, much, MUCH harder to achieve.

I know this is a dark day for yourself, and I feel for you having been on the other side of legislative victories of Republicans for many years.

But every now and again, we accomplish something so profound that ties all of us together so intrinsically, that I think we have a moral obligation to appreciate how far we've come.
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:30 PM   #3
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Here comes the hope and change. Now the question is where does the bleeding start first? With employers going to go broke trying to meet federal guidelines to cover their employees and people not able to afford the higher costs of coverage since healtcare providers will have to cover everyone now w/o tort reform or the ability for us to buy across state lines; Uncle Sam will have no choice but to bring in Universal Healthcare to "assist and care" for the people.

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Old 03-21-2010, 09:32 PM   #4
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It will become an embedded part of our nation's identity, Pete. Like Medicare, and like Social Security. Programs that need reform but are among the most compassionate and appreciated programs this country offers its citizens.

We are a new country after this, alright. We join the ranks of most of the civilized world that has nonetheless gone much farther than us.

You should not go broke because you get sick. Under this new law, I believe that medical bankruptcy is still possible, but much, much, MUCH harder to achieve.

I know this is a dark day for yourself, and I feel for you having been on the other side of legislative victories of Republicans for many years.

But every now and again, we accomplish something so profound that ties all of us together so intrinsically, that I think we have a moral obligation to appreciate how far we've come.
You won't go broke because you are sick under this new law. You will go broke cause of your higher taxes and lesser paying job.

Social Secutiry=broke
Medicare=broke
Health Care=soon to be broke

The only thing that ties us all together about this is you getting more of my money for no ****ing reason.
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:33 PM   #5
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When the Conservatives inevitably take back the power in this country and then the Presidency in 2012 I trust they will repeal, roll back, reform and defund this monstrosity. There will be no quarter given. Bi-partisanship is DEAD. I'll never vote for another wobbly Republican again and I don't want Liberals to be anything more than a footnote in the history books. This is a Center Right country and the people will be heard beginning in November. Goddam them all!
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:33 PM   #6
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You won't go broke because you are sick under this new law. You will go broke cause of your higher taxes and lesser paying job.

Social Secutiry=broke
Medicare=broke
Health Care=soon to be broke

The only thing that ties us all together about this is you getting more of my money for no ****ing reason.
Whatever you say, Pete.
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:34 PM   #7
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It will become an embedded part of our nation's identity, Pete. Like Medicare, and like Social Security. Programs that need reform but are among the most compassionate and appreciated programs this country offers its citizens.

We are a new country after this, alright. We join the ranks of most of the civilized world that has nonetheless gone much farther than us.

You should not go broke because you get sick. Under this new law, I believe that medical bankruptcy is still possible, but much, much, MUCH harder to achieve.

I know this is a dark day for yourself, and I feel for you having been on the other side of legislative victories of Republicans for many years.

But every now and again, we accomplish something so profound that ties all of us together so intrinsically, that I think we have a moral obligation to appreciate how far we've come.
To use words such as 'moral' and 'civilized' when describing this bill, just goes to show how little you know about true morality and successful civilizations.
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:35 PM   #8
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When the Conservatives inevitably take back the power in this country and then the Presidency in 2012 I trust they will repeal, roll back, reform and repeal this monstrosity.
Dream on.

Even if they get both chambers and the Presidency, this law will forever remain. It may be pared here and there, but it will remain 90% in tact.

It's not too far from what you probably wanted in the 1990's, so take solace in that if you can take solace in anything.
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:35 PM   #9
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:35 PM   #10
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It will become an embedded part of our nation's identity, Pete. Like Medicare, and like Social Security. Programs that need reform but are among the most compassionate and appreciated programs this country offers its citizens.

We are a new country after this, alright. We join the ranks of most of the civilized world that has nonetheless gone much farther than us.

You should not go broke because you get sick. Under this new law, I believe that medical bankruptcy is still possible, but much, much, MUCH harder to achieve.

I know this is a dark day for yourself, and I feel for you having been on the other side of legislative victories of Republicans for many years.

But every now and again, we accomplish something so profound that ties all of us together so intrinsically, that I think we have a moral obligation to appreciate how far we've come.
Hey Direckshun...How and why should I "appreciate" a program that I will be paying all of my life for and never get to reap the benefits, like SS and Medicare? We are paying the equivalent of 10 years of services for only six years of benefits and you believe we've accheived something signfigant? Like what...the nations' largest anal enema via taxes then I agree with you. Buyers remorse from this "profound" program won't take long IMO.
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:36 PM   #11
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To use words such as 'moral' and 'civilized' when describing this bill, just goes to show how little you know about true morality and successful civilizations.
Whatever you say, donkhater.
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Whatever you say, Pete.
In other words you can't refute what I have said and you know deep down inside I am right. But as I said in the OP, you don't care about health care reform. You just want a win for your side at any cost.
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They won't even make the Congress stand up and vote yea or nay on the record for such an historical vote. They continue to hide. They know they just ****ed themselves.

Just wait and see how this pans out. Democrats, your days are done.
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Hey Direckshun...How and why should I "appreciate" and program that I will be paying all of my life for and never get to reap the benefits, like SS and Medicare?
If you don't appreciate SS and Medicare, and would like both to be eliminated, than that's on you.

But that's a long way from where mainstream in America is.
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:39 PM   #15
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They won't even make the Congress stand up and vote yea or nay on the record for such an historical vote. They continue to hide. They know they just ****ed themselves.

Just wait and see how this pans out. Democrats, your days are done.
There is a huge board at the house showing how the votes pan out...they are all on record.

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