General Politics Oppose Obamacare for this reason if nothing else

jjchieffan · 03-23-2010, 05:24 PM

You will be forced to buy health insurance or pay a fine. What person in their right mind would be okay with that? I am married, and have a daughter. I dropped health insurance over 4 years ago because I felt I could find a better use for my $600 a month than to make insurance companies rich. So far, I have saved over $30000. I could have invested that money to have in case of health issues. However, I haven't saved any of it. But if big medical bills arise, I can probably make $600/month payments to pay them off. I see no reason for me to buy insurance. Yet now Obama, Pelosi, and their Socialist left wing cohorts tell me I have to buy insurance or pay a fine?? **** them!! In America, we are free to make that choice for ourselves. If the Supreme Court does not overturn this crap, **** them too!!

Thanks for letting me rant. I think this is my first post in D.C. I usually dont get involved in politics, but this shit is just wrong on so many levels

Chief Henry · 03-23-2010, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

You will be forced to buy health insurance or pay a fine. What person in their right mind would be okay with that? I am married, and have a daughter. I dropped health insurance over 4 years ago because I felt I could find a better use for my $600 a month than to make insurance companies rich. So far, I have saved over $30000. I could have invested that money to have in case of health issues. However, I haven't saved any of it. But if big medical bills arise, I can probably make $600/month payments to pay them off. I see no reason for me to buy insurance. Yet now Obama, Pelosi, and their Socialist left wing cohorts tell me I have to buy insurance or pay a fine?? **** them!! In America, we are free to make that choice for ourselves. If the Supreme Court does not overturn this crap, **** them too!!

Thanks for letting me rant. I think this is my first post in D.C. I usually dont get involved in politics, but this shit is just wrong on so many levels

You won't have to buy it now until you need it. Keep saving that dough.

**BigRedChief** · 03-23-2010, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

You will be forced to buy health insurance or pay a fine. What person in their right mind would be okay with that? I am married, and have a daughter. I dropped health insurance over 4 years ago because I felt I could find a better use for my $600 a month than to make insurance companies rich. So far, I have saved over $30000. I could have invested that money to have in case of health issues. However, I haven't saved any of it. But if big medical bills arise, I can probably make $600/month payments to pay them off. I see no reason for me to buy insurance. Yet now Obama, Pelosi, and their Socialist left wing cohorts tell me I have to buy insurance or pay a fine?? **** them!! In America, we are free to make that choice for ourselves. If the Supreme Court does not overturn this crap, **** them too!!

Thanks for letting me rant. I think this is my first post in D.C. I usually dont get involved in politics, but this shit is just wrong on so many levels

You have until 2014 before its mandatory. Then its only a $90 fine if you don't have insurance.

CoMoChief · 03-23-2010, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Henry

You won't have to buy it now until you need it. Keep saving that dough.

Which will in return raise costs of people's premiums.

Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and their nutjob clan are ****ing morons if they think this is going to allow prices to go down and decrease our national debt.

CoMoChief · 03-23-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

You have until 2014 before its mandatory. Then its only a $90 fine if you don't have insurance.

Why should there be any fine at all?

**BigRedChief** · 03-23-2010, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Why should there be any fine at all?

Why do we pay taxes?

**AustinChief** · 03-23-2010, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

You have until 2014 before its mandatory. Then its only a $90 fine if you don't have insurance.

HUH? no, the fine is $695 MINIMUM

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. The fine for not having insurance would be a minimum of $695 per person per year, with exemptions for financial hardship and other special cases.

**Griswald** · 03-23-2010, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Why do we pay taxes?

lol..you would be taxed for something you dont want or have. why should you be?

**Griswald** · 03-23-2010, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

HUH? no, the fine is $695 MINIMUM

Hey, you have to insure all CP posters under this bill.

fan4ever · 03-23-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

You will be forced to buy health insurance or pay a fine. What person in their right mind would be okay with that?

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Be quiet how. Shhhhhhhhhhhhh. They know what's best for us.

**BigRedChief** · 03-23-2010, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

HUH? no, the fine is $695 MINIMUM

Thats for the rich. It's a sliding scale based on household income. You make less than $100K it will less than $100.

**Griswald** · 03-23-2010, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Thats for the rich. It's a sliding scale based on household income. You make less than $100K it will less than $100.

Oh, thanks robin hood.

the rich..lol..too rich

**Griswald** · 03-23-2010, 06:21 PM

so only broke dick bishes making less than 100k (per household) get a break? lol..what makes anybody think over 100k is rich?

jjchieffan · 03-23-2010, 06:22 PM

BRC it is 2.5% of income. Based on just $50,000 that would $1250.

Today, Ranking Member of the House Ways and Means Committee Dave Camp (R-MI) released a letter from the non-partisan Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) confirming that the failure to comply with the individual mandate to buy health insurance contained in the Pelosi health care bill (H.R. 3962, as amended) could land people in jail. The JCT letter makes clear that Americans who do not maintain “acceptable health insurance coverage” and who choose not to pay the bill’s new individual mandate tax (generally 2.5% of income), are subject to numerous civil and criminal penalties, including criminal fines of up to $250,000 and imprisonment of up to five years.

http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...umentID=153583

**bevischief** · 03-23-2010, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Thats for the rich. It's a sliding scale based on household income. You make less than $100K it will less than $100.

Is that per family?

03-23-2010, 05:24 PM
jjchieffan Veteran Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highlandville, MO Casino cash: $49495	Oppose Obamacare for this reason if nothing else You will be forced to buy health insurance or pay a fine. What person in their right mind would be okay with that? I am married, and have a daughter. I dropped health insurance over 4 years ago because I felt I could find a better use for my $600 a month than to make insurance companies rich. So far, I have saved over $30000. I could have invested that money to have in case of health issues. However, I haven't saved any of it. But if big medical bills arise, I can probably make $600/month payments to pay them off. I see no reason for me to buy insurance. Yet now Obama, Pelosi, and their Socialist left wing cohorts tell me I have to buy insurance or pay a fine?? ** them!! In America, we are free to make that choice for ourselves. If the Supreme Court does not overturn this crap, ** them too!! Thanks for letting me rant. I think this is my first post in D.C. I usually dont get involved in politics, but this shit is just wrong on so many levels
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03-23-2010, 06:21 PM	#13
Griswald I have gas Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $5123	so only broke dick bishes making less than 100k (per household) get a break? lol..what makes anybody think over 100k is rich?
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03-23-2010, 06:22 PM	#14
jjchieffan Veteran Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highlandville, MO Casino cash: $49495	BRC it is 2.5% of income. Based on just $50,000 that would $1250. Today, Ranking Member of the House Ways and Means Committee Dave Camp (R-MI) released a letter from the non-partisan Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) confirming that the failure to comply with the individual mandate to buy health insurance contained in the Pelosi health care bill (H.R. 3962, as amended) could land people in jail. The JCT letter makes clear that Americans who do not maintain “acceptable health insurance coverage” and who choose not to pay the bill’s new individual mandate tax (generally 2.5% of income), are subject to numerous civil and criminal penalties, including criminal fines of up to $250,000 and imprisonment of up to five years. http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...umentID=153583 __________________ Last edited by jjchieffan; 03-23-2010 at 06:23 PM.. Reason: forgot link
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