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Old 03-24-2010, 01:07 AM  
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So about those racists....

Has anyone actually seen any video of this group of people using racial slurs at the capital?
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Old 03-26-2010, 06:33 PM   #76
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SPITTER HIDING FACE FROM CLEAVER AND COP
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Old 03-26-2010, 06:33 PM   #77
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Old 03-26-2010, 07:27 PM   #78
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Old 03-26-2010, 08:26 PM   #79
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Last weekend, when those members of Congress spread those lies about the protesters, we had video of the incident.

They said that racial slurs were hurled, but the video showed otherwise.

I asked what excuse the left might use to explain why the truth doesn’t match the story. And, sure enough, they’ve come up with all kinds. Most of them saying that the videos were edited or incomplete. However, since Jesse Jackson, Jr., who was with the Congressmen, was videotaping the event, you’d figure there’d be proof of their claims. If they were true.

They aren’t.

Andrew Breitbart is not only saying the Congressmen’s claims are false, he’s offering a bounty to anyone that can back up those claims.

He’s offering $10,000 if Rep. John Lewis, a Georgia Democrat, can prove his claims:

Rep. Lewis, if you can’t do that, I’ll give him a backup plan: a lie detector test. If you provide verifiable video evidence showing that a single racist epithet was hurled as you walked among the tea partiers, or you pass a simple lie detector test, I will provide a $10K check to the United Negro College Fund.

Will Lewis collect for the UNCF? Nope. But you know what I think the left will do? Accuse Breitbart of being a racist, because his offer includes the word “Negro.”
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Old 03-26-2010, 08:31 PM   #80
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Old 03-26-2010, 09:26 PM   #81
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SPIT HITTING CLEAVER
You can't see any spit hitting Cleaver there. You're making an assumption. What you're actually seeing is a guy yelling at Cleaver.

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CLEAVER WIPING SPIT OFF FACE
Cleaver is making a wiping motion, but you don't know if he's acting or if he's really wiping something.

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This isn't even close to true. If you watch the video instead of taking a screen cap out of context, it's clear that this particular protester uses his hands to shout. More importantly, in the video, just before this moment and just after it, he's looking directly at Cleaver and the cop, not trying to hide his face at all. If he didn't want to be spotted, you'd expect him to do more to hide than just turn his head and put his hand up anyway. I'd like to believe that you haven't watched the video and that you were just misled by a Huffington Post con job that used these same still pictures, but as simple as it would be to watch the short video I have to wonder if you're not an active participant.

When Cleaver returns to the scene of the fake crime with a cop by his side, at 2:46 on the video, the man is shouting straight at him. Your picture comes from 2:51 when the man has turned to the guy on his right. By 2:57, he's turned back toward Cleaver and dropped his hands away from his face despite Cleaver and the cop still being right in front of him.
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Old 03-26-2010, 10:47 PM   #82
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That's 3000 words for you.
And the video is worth 10k. It's a far cry from the image of a chorus of racists shouting racial slurs while one of them hocked a loogie in his face that the left tried to paint.
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Old 03-27-2010, 04:12 AM   #83
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You can't see any spit hitting Cleaver there. You're making an assumption. What you're actually seeing is a guy yelling at Cleaver.
No, Cleaver RECOILS because something struck him. No assumption at all. Clear and obvious in real time.

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Cleaver is making a wiping motion, but you don't know if he's acting or if he's really wiping something.
Not even worth debating. He wipes.

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This isn't even close to true. If you watch the video instead of taking a screen cap out of context, it's clear that this particular protester uses his hands to shout. More importantly, in the video, just before this moment and just after it, he's looking directly at Cleaver and the cop, not trying to hide his face at all. If he didn't want to be spotted, you'd expect him to do more to hide than just turn his head and put his hand up anyway.
When Cleaver and the cop come back, SPITTER is expecting to get nabbed. He can't believe his luck when Cleaver doesn't recognize him. But he doesn't want to push his luck so he turns away. Why the hell is he "shouting through his megaphone" at the guy next to him? To shield his face, of course. Whether he spit or not, I wouldn't expect him to make himself an easy arrest when he can slide by; I'm not even holding this against him.

And as for Huffingtonpost - put the strawman away, those pics are 100% homegrown. But you already knew that.

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Meanwhile, the TRULY, TRULY PATHETIC Norm "- ahem, shut your mouth -" Einstein still haunts this forum. He sends you all a message via neg-rep: "That's not really a birth certificate, you know."
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Old 03-27-2010, 04:44 AM   #84
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Old 03-27-2010, 11:15 AM   #85
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No, Cleaver RECOILS because something struck him. No assumption at all. Clear and obvious in real time.



Not even worth debating. He wipes.
I understand what your argument is, but when you've got a guy who went looking for trouble, you can't discount the possibility that he's inventing it, recoil and wipe included. Your assumption is that it isn't staged, so yes, there is an assumption. You didn't see any spit, you saw what you assume is a reaction to spit.

That said, I continue to think that the most likely explanation here is that the man who was shouting at Cleaver from close range ACCIDENTALLY spit on Cleaver, which isn't really much of a scandal.

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When Cleaver and the cop come back, SPITTER is expecting to get nabbed. He can't believe his luck when Cleaver doesn't recognize him. But he doesn't want to push his luck so he turns away. Why the hell is he "shouting through his megaphone" at the guy next to him? To shield his face, of course. Whether he spit or not, I wouldn't expect him to make himself an easy arrest when he can slide by; I'm not even holding this against him.

And as for Huffingtonpost - put the strawman away, those pics are 100% homegrown. But you already knew that.
That's ridiculous. He faces Cleaver and the cop both before and after the screen cap you present. That's not the action of a man who is worried that he's about to be nabbed. Such a man wouldn't be standing there shielding his face anyway, he'd be drifting off to blend into the crowd.

He uses his hand when he's talking to his neighbor because there is a lot of ambient noise. It's a common practice.
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Maybe he along with a lot of other people are just spitting mad at what congress is doing and the direction it is headed.
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Again. The congressman who claimed this happened had 2 people with him filming, yet they didn't catch this on tape? Doesn't that seem unusual to you?
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