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50 Beers to Try Before You Die

Thought the beer snobs here might like this article (and probably critique the hell out of it).

http://www.wisdeo.com/articles/view_post/2984
(CBS) You've heard of "100 Bottles of Beer on the Wall"?

How about 50 to try before you die?!
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Old 10-24-2010, 06:23 PM   #436
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I just discovered Shock Top a few days ago...seemed to be better than any Blvd I've had. Should definitely be in the top 100, if not the top 50.
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Old 10-24-2010, 06:27 PM   #437
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Malted barley -- the principle flavor of beer -- is sweet. Beer is fermented grain sugars. SUGARS, HCF. That's sweetness. Jesus ****ing God, this post couldn't be more wrong if it tried.

Plus, fruit flavors are commonplace in beer. Rare is the beer that doesn't have some fruitiness to it. Shit, even Budweiser tastes like green apples in large part. You don't want one-note artificial fruit sweetness, such as the cloying orange flavor in Blue Moon or Shock Top. But naturally-occurring fruit flavors from the malt sugars, or the hop lupulin, or actual fruit such as in lambic beer, is part of why beer is such a great beverage.

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No doubt as a man of culture you understand tastes are varied and different, not bad. I would rather be run over than have a beer that is sweet, meaning like sugar sweet, or fruity as in has rasberries or some other garbage added to it.

We all can ID different flavors in beer just as we can in wine. You drink what makes you happy.

Bud tastes like crap to me, always has, always will. Green apples to you, thats fine. I taste old rotted hay and sawdust.

I enjoyed some lambic beers in France a few weeks ago. I enjoyed some. Others not so much but enjoyed the experience.

Im going to have a Boulevard Pilsner and see what I can pick up.
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Old 10-24-2010, 06:44 PM   #438
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No doubt as a man of culture you understand tastes are varied and different, not bad. I would rather be run over than have a beer that is sweet, meaning like sugar sweet, or fruity as in has rasberries or some other garbage added to it.

We all can ID different flavors in beer just as we can in wine. You drink what makes you happy.

Bud tastes like crap to me, always has, always will. Green apples to you, thats fine. I taste old rotted hay and sawdust.

I enjoyed some lambic beers in France a few weeks ago. I enjoyed some. Others not so much but enjoyed the experience.

Im going to have a Boulevard Pilsner and see what I can pick up.
This is a much more reasonable post, HCF. I agree with you that beer shouldn't be sickly, cloyingly sweet. That's part of the reason that hops are used -- in addition to their preservative qualities they provide much-needed bitterness to balance beer. Because beer is inherently a sweet beverage.

I also agree that Bud is not a pleasant drinking experience. You're using figuartive language when you say it tastes like old rotted hay, though. Right? Because there are beers -- saisons, biere de gardes, guezes, unblended lambics -- that have a heavy hay/barnyard flavor to them. Bud isn't one of them. Bud is pretty much straightforwardly cooked rice, green apple, and a bit of those nasty beechwood chips.
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Old 10-24-2010, 06:47 PM   #439
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This is a much more reasonable post, HCF. I agree with you that beer shouldn't be sickly, cloyingly sweet. That's part of the reason that hops are used -- in addition to their preservative qualities they provide much-needed bitterness to balance beer. Because beer is inherently a sweet beverage.

I also agree that Bud is not a pleasant drinking experience. You're using figuartive language when you say it tastes like old rotted hay, though. Right? Because there are beers -- saisons, biere de gardes, guezes, unblended lambics -- that have a heavy hay/barnyard flavor to them. Bud isn't one of them. Bud is pretty much straightforwardly cooked rice, green apple, and a bit of those nasty beechwood chips.
Speaking of Saison... how do you rate Saison DuPont?

Had it while eating at Brasserie in St. Louis and really liked it.
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Old 10-24-2010, 06:51 PM   #440
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Speaking of Saison... how do you rate Saison DuPont?

Had it while eating at Brasserie in St. Louis and really liked it.
I love it so much. Saison Dupont Vielle Provision is the classic, standard-bearer of the style. It is a gorgeous beer that pairs so well with so many dishes. I buy it pretty much constantly. It isn't the best of the style, but it is pretty close.
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Old 10-24-2010, 06:55 PM   #441
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I love it so much. Saison Dupont Vielle Provision is the classic, standard-bearer of the style. It is a gorgeous beer that pairs so well with so many dishes. I buy it pretty much constantly. It isn't the best of the style, but it is pretty close.
Brasserie kicks ass, btw, if you ever get a chance to get up to St. Louis. Urbanspoon reviews on it suck, but I really think people just must not get it. Bad ass rustic French food and some pretty badass beer.
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Old 10-24-2010, 07:01 PM   #442
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This is a much more reasonable post, HCF. I agree with you that beer shouldn't be sickly, cloyingly sweet. That's part of the reason that hops are used -- in addition to their preservative qualities they provide much-needed bitterness to balance beer. Because beer is inherently a sweet beverage.

I also agree that Bud is not a pleasant drinking experience. You're using figuartive language when you say it tastes like old rotted hay, though. Right? Because there are beers -- saisons, biere de gardes, guezes, unblended lambics -- that have a heavy hay/barnyard flavor to them. Bud isn't one of them. Bud is pretty much straightforwardly cooked rice, green apple, and a bit of those nasty beechwood chips.
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Old 10-24-2010, 07:01 PM   #443
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What's the concessions like there? I haven't been to a game in years. I figure you have to walk, but is there any decent beer there?
Concessions have VASTLY improved with the upgrades. BlueMoon and Boulevard seem to be pretty popular out there, along with your standard fare in stadium beer drinking. If you like mixed drinks, it's kind of suprising at the selection of those that are available.
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This is a little over the top
Reaper is, literally, writing a book on beer.
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Brasserie kicks ass, btw, if you ever get a chance to get up to St. Louis. Urbanspoon reviews on it suck, but I really think people just must not get it. Bad ass rustic French food and some pretty badass beer.
Menu looks real nice. For a place called "Brasserie" (French for "brewery") it really skimps out on the beer list. It would be shameful if the few bottles they do carry didn't match up reasonably well with the majority of their menu. They could get away with just Matilda, Dupont, Tripel Karmeliet and Chimay Blue, but I'd like to see a much wider variety if you are going to call your place "Brewery."
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Menu looks real nice. For a place called "Brasserie" (French for "brewery") it really skimps out on the beer list. It would be shameful if the few bottles they do carry didn't match up reasonably well with the majority of their menu. They could get away with just Matilda, Dupont, Tripel Karmeliet and Chimay Blue, but I'd like to see a much wider variety if you are going to call your place "Brewery."
Yeah, I think they're going with the more common usage of the word than its literal meaning.

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By tradition, a brasserie is a modest restaurant, a place where you can enjoy a good, unpretentious meal at almost any time of day. As Alan Davidson writes in The Oxford Companion to Food, "Drawing a line between a brasserie and a bistro is no easy matter." Of course, here in America, where anything other than a strip club can call itself a bistro and not raise eyebrows, the question might be moot.

One distinction is that originally "brasserie" was synonymous with "brewery." Brasserie by Niche doesn't make its own beer, but it does pay more attention to craft beer than most area restaurants. The list is curated by Mike Sweeney, author of the beer blog STL Hops (www.stlhops.com) and (full disclosure) a personal acquaintance of mine. His selection offers a range of styles and price points both on draft and in the bottle, with emphasis on Belgian and Belgian-style beers. The staff seems well versed in both the list and the nuances of pairing beer with food. When a friend expressed curiosity in a glass of Duchesse de Bourgogne, a tart Flemish ale, our server brought him a sample and noted that its quenching qualities would pair well with the menu's hearty fare.
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Reaper I am curious where do you find all these beers that you reviewed or what made you want to try them? I have never heard of half of these.
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Anyone had the Boulevard Amber Ale? Me likes.

I know, it's probably something "common" that "everyone" likes. That's great, too.
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I want to know how a grad student can afford to drink so well. It's not fair!
I'm assuming that he drinks like 1-2 of those good beers a day at his house. It's definitely good beer, but lots of grad students spend way more than that on booze in an average month... especially if they're going out and drinking at bars.

Drink two $15 beers for a total of $30. That would be drinking some seriously good beers.

A $30 bar tab for a night on the town would be pretty light for most college kids. It's pretty easy to go out and drop a hundred in a night if you're really drinking much and bar hopping.
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