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Old 05-06-2010, 07:45 PM  
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Big 12, Pac-10 look at alliance

Big 12, Pac-10 look at alliance

By BLAIR KERKHOFF
The Kansas City Star

Big 12 Conference athletic directors met with their Pacific-10 counterparts in Phoenix on Wednesday and Thursday to discuss collaborating in a future sports landscape and possibly working together on television contracts, a source told The Kansas City Star.

Contacted Thursday, Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe confirmed the meetings but did not offer specifics. He called the exchange “very positive.”

“It was an informal gathering,” Beebe said. “We talked about how we might cooperate going forward.”

The meeting could be seen as preparation for possible Big Ten expansion. The Big Ten announced last December that it was exploring adding members, and among those swirling in the speculation are Big 12 members Missouri and Nebraska.

An alliance between the Big 12 and Pac-10 could strengthen their position in television negotiations. As the two major conferences west of the Mississippi River, their schools are located in or near six of the nation’s top 13 media markets — Los Angeles, Dallas, San Francisco, Houston, Seattle and Phoenix.

The Big 12 has football television contracts with ABC/ESPN that go through 2016 and with Fox Sports Net through 2012. The league begins negotiations with Fox starting next spring.

The Pac-10 also has deals with ABC/ESPN and Fox through 2012 and is expected to begin negotiating new deals this year.

According to the source, a negotiating point for new deals could involve games between the Pac-10 and Big 12.

The conferences already partner in men’s basketball. Last week, the leagues announced the matchups for the fourth Big 12/Pac-10 Hardwood Series.

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Old 05-06-2010, 07:51 PM   #2
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They should start their own TV network. The Big 12/Pac 10 Television Network would be awesome.
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Old 05-06-2010, 07:54 PM   #3
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They should start their own TV network. The Big 12/Pac 10 Television Network would be awesome.
If that juggernaut of a conference ever happens, you can bet your ass there will be a network. Traveling would be a bitch, but goddamn, it would be worth it.
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:12 PM   #4
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:15 PM   #5
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So basically, everyone in the 12 who is NOT UT or OU, is telling UT and OU to "**** off".

I like it.
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:16 PM   #6
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:33 PM   #7
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How about this? Personally, I think it's kind of bad ass. They should do it. **** Nebraska and Missouri. Only thing bad about it is it limits rivalry games a bit for KU.

West:
* USC
* UCLA
* Stanford
* Cal
* Oregon
* Oregon State
* Washington
* Washington State

East:
* Texas
* Texas A&M
* Oklahoma
* Kansas
* Colorado
* Arizona
* Arizona State
* BYU, Texas Tech, K-State, Oklahoma State, or Iowa State

You could add different variations. Like giving Colorado to the WAC or Mountain West. Putting K-State in there for Colorado. I don't think BYU is a very good possibility. They don't like to play on Sundays.
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:37 PM   #8
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They aren't talking merger, only a strategic partnership. Basically, getting as close to being a superconference, without actually being one, putting together a good joint TV deal, a few non-con games, etc.

The PAC 10 is not likely going to expand, and the NCAA will likely cave and allow the Pac 10 to have their football game with 10 teams. The PAC 10 has rules saying they can not expand without a unanimous vote, and they have at least 1 school against any expansion.
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:57 PM   #9
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They aren't talking merger, only a strategic partnership. Basically, getting as close to being a superconference, without actually being one, putting together a good joint TV deal, a few non-con games, etc.

The PAC 10 is not likely going to expand, and the NCAA will likely cave and allow the Pac 10 to have their football game with 10 teams. The PAC 10 has rules saying they can not expand without a unanimous vote, and they have at least 1 school against any expansion.
You're squashing dreams here, man.
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:59 PM   #10
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They aren't talking merger, only a strategic partnership. Basically, getting as close to being a superconference, without actually being one, putting together a good joint TV deal, a few non-con games, etc.

The PAC 10 is not likely going to expand, and the NCAA will likely cave and allow the Pac 10 to have their football game with 10 teams. The PAC 10 has rules saying they can not expand without a unanimous vote, and they have at least 1 school against any expansion.
What school is that? I believe you, but what literature do you know of to support this? I really think the Big 12 and Pac 10 have to combine because they will be left in the dust w/ the other three super conferences.
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What school is that? I believe you, but what literature do you know of to support this? I really think the Big 12 and Pac 10 have to combine because they will be left in the dust w/ the other three super conferences.
USC, I would assume.
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Old 05-06-2010, 09:06 PM   #12
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What school is that? I believe you, but what literature do you know of to support this? I really think the Big 12 and Pac 10 have to combine because they will be left in the dust w/ the other three super conferences.
Its Stanford, but the word on the street is they are more willing this time around.
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Old 05-06-2010, 09:10 PM   #13
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I want nothing to do with the Big XII. I don't mind Texas, Oklahoma, and maybe the Kansas schools, but the rest will be a burden to our conference AFAIC. Missouri and Nebraska not being a part of the equation hurts IMO.
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I want nothing to do with the Big XII. I don't mind Texas, Oklahoma, and maybe the Kansas schools, but the rest will be a burden to our conference AFAIC. Missouri and Nebraska not being a part of the equation hurts IMO.
I'd be curious to see if it even works. You'd be talking about some flat brutal road trips. Groups of schools 2000 miles apart.
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They aren't talking merger, only a strategic partnership. Basically, getting as close to being a superconference, without actually being one, putting together a good joint TV deal, a few non-con games, etc.

The PAC 10 is not likely going to expand, and the NCAA will likely cave and allow the Pac 10 to have their football game with 10 teams. The PAC 10 has rules saying they can not expand without a unanimous vote, and they have at least 1 school against any expansion.
There would be some awful long road trips if the Big 12/Pac-10 became one conference....Lawrence to LA, Austin to Seattle, Eugene to Ames...we are talking about 3 times zones! I just don't see it.

Columbia to Happy Valley or Lincoln to Ann Arbor make more sense.
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