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Old 07-12-2010, 10:53 AM  
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A short exposition on how stupid we are

If some would indulge me a couple of short reads, came across this today and was just gobsmacked.
Taking Malcolm Gladwell to task for, nearly a year ago, criticizing To Kill A Mockingbird, for demonstrating "the limitations of liberalism."
The twit doesn't even recognize that the title subscript is "Atticus Finch and the limits of Southern liberalism." And she certainly doesn't take the time to see that Gladwell was exploring the difference between liberalizing on the local and individual level through example and liberalizing through Activism at the Federal level. Heaven forbid she be the least bit cognizant of the tradeoffs between local approach, with its attendant slow pace and occasional tragic setbacks, and the federal approach, with its attendant fast pace and often more tragic backlash and retrenchment.

No lets just say 'they're attacking liberals, ain't this a bitch' and hunker down into gender politics as a pat answer for a question the author didn't even pose.

End rant.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-..._b_641473.html

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2..._fact_gladwell
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Old 07-12-2010, 01:06 PM   #2
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The twit doesn't even recognize that the title subscript is "Atticus Finch and the limits of Southern liberalism." And she certainly doesn't take the time to see that Gladwell was exploring the difference between liberalizing on the local and individual level through example and liberalizing through Activism at the Federal level. Heaven forbid she be the least bit cognizant of the tradeoffs between local approach, with its attendant slow pace and occasional tragic setbacks, and the federal approach, with its attendant fast pace and often more tragic backlash and retrenchment.

No lets just say 'they're attacking liberals, ain't this a bitch' and hunker down into gender politics as a pat answer for a question the author didn't even pose.

End rant.
Who's this SHE you're talking about?


related: Have you ever noticed how when someone posts a rebuke of someone else's post over some spelling or grammatical error, that critic almost always commits a similar error? I'm sure psychologists could have a field day with this.

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Old 07-12-2010, 01:26 PM   #3
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Old 07-12-2010, 01:31 PM   #4
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Old 07-12-2010, 02:14 PM   #5
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If some would indulge me a couple of short reads, came across this today and was just gobsmacked.
Taking Malcolm Gladwell to task for, nearly a year ago, criticizing To Kill A Mockingbird, for demonstrating "the limitations of liberalism."
The twit doesn't even recognize that the title subscript is "Atticus Finch and the limits of Southern liberalism." And she certainly doesn't take the time to see that Gladwell was exploring the difference between liberalizing on the local and individual level through example and liberalizing through Activism at the Federal level. Heaven forbid she be the least bit cognizant of the tradeoffs between local approach, with its attendant slow pace and occasional tragic setbacks, and the federal approach, with its attendant fast pace and often more tragic backlash and retrenchment.

No lets just say 'they're attacking liberals, ain't this a bitch' and hunker down into gender politics as a pat answer for a question the author didn't even pose.

End rant.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-..._b_641473.html

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2..._fact_gladwell
Pretty much goes for all reporting these days. Rarely is a there an even take on an issue. What you're mad about is pretty much the same as the death panel smears.

Sadly, Gladwell can be taken to task many ways but this isn't one of them. (anecdotal evidence reliance is one of the biggies) I love reading him but critics are right, his reasoning is flawed most of the time.
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Old 07-12-2010, 03:10 PM   #6
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Atticus Finch is not a feminized man. That's ridiculous.
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Old 07-12-2010, 03:20 PM   #7
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Old 07-12-2010, 03:40 PM   #8
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Kathleen Parker didn't like what Gladwell had to say either.


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Old 07-12-2010, 03:49 PM   #9
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Kathleen Parker didn't like what Gladwell had to say either.


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That's a more erudite criticism, but I don't see Gladwell bemoaning the content of TKaM as observing that it encapsulated a failed [in his opinion] approach to social change. It seems to me that Gladwell isn't so much opposed to the lessons TKaM teaches as making the case that those lessons need to be re-examined, more critically examined, in present society.

I don't have examples at my fingertips, but surely there are myriad other 'great works' that provide rich moral issues that are resolved in manners much different than we'd resolve them today.
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Old 07-12-2010, 03:54 PM   #10
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Atticus Finch is not a feminized man. That's ridiculous.
I have to agree with you here. The HuffPost link says kindness and empathy are typically traits found in women.

I am here to say that not only can women be some of the most cruel, unkind and unempathetic people, a real man is kind and empathetic.
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Old 07-12-2010, 04:07 PM   #11
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That's a more erudite criticism, but I don't see Gladwell bemoaning the content of TKaM as observing that it encapsulated a failed [in his opinion] approach to social change. It seems to me that Gladwell isn't so much opposed to the lessons TKaM teaches as making the case that those lessons need to be re-examined, more critically examined, in present society.

I don't have examples at my fingertips, but surely there are myriad other 'great works' that provide rich moral issues that are resolved in manners much different than we'd resolve them today.

I guess I don't understand why Gladwell is critiquing the actions of a fictional character 50 years old. My expectations of people from my grandparent's generation are considerably different than my expectations of people today. Admittedly, I don't qualify as a literary scholar.
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Old 07-13-2010, 04:19 AM   #12
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I guess I don't understand why Gladwell is critiquing the actions of a fictional character 50 years old. My expectations of people from my grandparent's generation are considerably different than my expectations of people today. Admittedly, I don't qualify as a literary scholar.
Can't have anything to do with it being one of the most taught novels today in HS?
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Can't have anything to do with it being one of the most taught novels today in HS?
My son will be going into his sophmore year of HS this fall and is expected to have read TKaM over the summer. Interestingly, I just saw the movie for a class I took a couple of months ago. I had never seen or read it before.
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Can't have anything to do with it being one of the most taught novels today in HS?

Maybe. Like I said, I don't know. Is it generally taught in literature/ English type classes or social studies type classes?
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Maybe. Like I said, I don't know. Is it generally taught in literature/ English type classes or social studies type classes?
I believe it's the second most taught behind Huck Finn.
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