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Old 03-26-2013, 08:24 PM   #4261
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If it is Morgan, like I said before, they really had better do a lot of explaining. I'm fine with it being him, if they can do it in a plausible sensible way. Just stumbling upon it is awful and lazy. If he has been watching for weeks, and meticulously noting the goings-on, then I'm fine with it. But thinking a guy who knows almost nothing of what is going on stumbles across something by chance and decides to burn the walkers on a hunch/whim is weak.

edit: What spoiler? Send me to a link.

And this map is something I came across when I started reading the books a few years back. It is not filming locations.
Don't know what that map is, but the show is set in Georgia so...

Again, his burning of the zombies has ZERO to do with a hunch or whim. He has taken on "CLEARING" the zombies as his personal duty. Did you notice him burning bodies back in his town? Hello?

Again, this "stumble upon" thing is terrible. Maybe you didn't see his last episode, he is METICULOUS in what he does. His entire town was a booby trap and his every escape route was color coated, complete with arrows leading him to safety painted on the ground, to ladders and doors of matching color. So what makes you think he just simply drive all carefree to the prison in his seriously paranoid state of mind? He doesn't even trust living human beings. He wouldn't just drive. I'm sure very time he came over a hill he, in his paranoia, he scouted the situation ahead. This man is not exactly stable anymore. The only thing that would have needed to be happen is him seeing the Woodbury group before they saw him.

The fact that you find this to be an amazing stretch has me wondering how you watch this show. With Merle just stumbling upon Glenn and Maggie, Otis stumbling upon Sophie, Michonne just finding the prison like it was nothing, the Governor just so happened to know where Andrea would approach the prison from, hip fire head shots etc.

The "spoiler" is:

Spoiler!
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Old 03-26-2013, 08:30 PM   #4262
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You realize that is a map of the actual locations where the scenes were shot don't you? That is not where things actually are in this television show story.

Unless Rick, Michonne and Carl took the LONG way around when they got stuck on their way to Morgan's town.

Maybe you haven't looked at the spoiler for next week. Called it.
Not to mention the fact that the prison is actually located on the other end of Hershel's property.

I'd love to drive down there and check out some of the shoot locations some day.
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Old 03-26-2013, 08:50 PM   #4263
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Don't know what that map is, but the show is set in Georgia so...

Again, his burning of the zombies has ZERO to do with a hunch or whim. He has taken on "CLEARING" the zombies as his personal duty. Did you notice him burning bodies back in his town? Hello?

Again, this "stumble upon" thing is terrible. Maybe you didn't see his last episode, he is METICULOUS in what he does. His entire town was a booby trap and his every escape route was color coated, complete with arrows leading him to safety painted on the ground, to ladders and doors of matching color. So what makes you think he just simply drive all carefree to the prison in his seriously paranoid state of mind? He doesn't even trust living human beings. He wouldn't just drive. I'm sure very time he came over a hill he, in his paranoia, he scouted the situation ahead. This man is not exactly stable anymore. The only thing that would have needed to be happen is him seeing the Woodbury group before they saw him.

The fact that you find this to be an amazing stretch has me wondering how you watch this show. With Merle just stumbling upon Glenn and Maggie, Otis stumbling upon Sophie, Michonne just finding the prison like it was nothing, the Governor just so happened to know where Andrea would approach the prison from, hip fire head shots etc.

The "spoiler" is:

Spoiler!
I just got into this show recently, and basically did my own marathon. I'm lost on how you know all this about Morgan. Wasnt he just in the first episode? I don't recall all this detail about him...however, I have wondered whether been.
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Old 03-26-2013, 09:00 PM   #4264
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lets be honest how the **** did the governer find andrea in the woods with that truck and chase her

by random chance? luck? i mean Andrea saw him looking for her, she had the woods as cover to her advantage, and shes out in an open field at the same exact time he plans to drive it.

and THEN he catches he right before shes about to walk out to the fence in the prison, at the exact same spot, she could have came out of that treeline from anywhere


hes right, the whole season is just "random stumbling chances" and they make it seem the prison and woodbury are a block away from each other at points and then real far away with some feeds and houses in between at other points

so the Morgan thing is plausible. What isnt plausible with the Morgan thing is that is Ricks hometown and the prison and Rick's hometown, where Morgan is, is a very very very far drive. Theres no iPhone, or GPS in this world, so you have to be a perfect ****ing navigator to pinpoint these spots with that kind of distance.

suspending a lot of belief this season to make these story arcs work. But hey that's pile of shit AMC for you and most likely why you have 2 showrunners quit in 3 seasons
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:28 PM   #4265
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I just got into this show recently, and basically did my own marathon. I'm lost on how you know all this about Morgan. Wasnt he just in the first episode? I don't recall all this detail about him...however, I have wondered whether been.
Are you up to speed this season? B/c his character was pretty transparent this season.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:31 PM   #4266
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lets be honest how the **** did the governer find andrea in the woods with that truck and chase her

by random chance? luck? i mean Andrea saw him looking for her, she had the woods as cover to her advantage, and shes out in an open field at the same exact time he plans to drive it.

and THEN he catches he right before shes about to walk out to the fence in the prison, at the exact same spot, she could have came out of that treeline from anywhere


hes right, the whole season is just "random stumbling chances" and they make it seem the prison and woodbury are a block away from each other at points and then real far away with some feeds and houses in between at other points

so the Morgan thing is plausible. What isnt plausible with the Morgan thing is that is Ricks hometown and the prison and Rick's hometown, where Morgan is, is a very very very far drive. Theres no iPhone, or GPS in this world, so you have to be a perfect ****ing navigator to pinpoint these spots with that kind of distance.

suspending a lot of belief this season to make these story arcs work. But hey that's pile of shit AMC for you and most likely why you have 2 showrunners quit in 3 seasons
Agree mostly. I am lost though as to your point about gps?
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:42 PM   #4267
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I'm still positive Milton did it. As for Morgan appearing, he very well may be in the last episode. I know in the past previous actors have been listed as appearing in an episode when in actuality they never did. And yes, I have noticed all the random chance, and it blows. It is poor writing. The comic is much tighter and better all around. I can't figure out why they would stray so far from it. Whatever. I watch this show with passing interest now anyway, which is clear to see from a ton of my previous posts over the past seasons. AMC had a golden chance to produce something awesome, and instead they have dumped a dumbed down cheap imitation of a great story. I wish HBO had taken the opportunity to produce this; holy shit that would have been amazing. At least this week they finally figured out how to grow a character and to show depth, only to kill him off for a cheap shock factor. There is no reason they can't do that with every character, and why they couldn't do it all along. Oh well, I will watch next weeks finale (after GoT season opener of course), and be disappointed.

I'm sure it is clear, I don't really care if it is Milton or Morgan, but if it is Morgan it is cheap and lazy writing unless they spend some time explaining all of it. However, if it is Milton it is considerably better writing as they will show his character grow a bit from a little meek turd to a somewhat defiant individual man with balls who took action at considerable risk to himself. That is why I want it to be Milton, and why it should be Milton.
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:52 PM   #4268
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so watching the walking dead this week, recording the marathon. Gonna try to squeeze it all in before finale, gonna be tough.

But I'm halfway through first season again, it's almost better the second time around. Some references that I forgot, become clear now. Like with Merle saying to the governor "I WILL NEVER BEG YOU" he says that in the pilot while handcuffed on the roof after praying to god "I WILL NEVER BEG YOU GOD"

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I'm still positive Milton did it. As for Morgan appearing, he very well may be in the last episode. I know in the past previous actors have been listed as appearing in an episode when in actuality they never did. And yes, I have noticed all the random chance, and it blows. It is poor writing. The comic is much tighter and better all around. I can't figure out why they would stray so far from it. Whatever. I watch this show with passing interest now anyway, which is clear to see from a ton of my previous posts over the past seasons. AMC had a golden chance to produce something awesome, and instead they have dumped a dumbed down cheap imitation of a great story. I wish HBO had taken the opportunity to produce this; holy shit that would have been amazing. At least this week they finally figured out how to grow a character and to show depth, only to kill him off for a cheap shock factor. There is no reason they can't do that with every character, and why they couldn't do it all along. Oh well, I will watch next weeks finale (after GoT season opener of course), and be disappointed.

I'm sure it is clear, I don't really care if it is Milton or Morgan, but if it is Morgan it is cheap and lazy writing unless they spend some time explaining all of it. However, if it is Milton it is considerably better writing as they will show his character grow a bit from a little meek turd to a somewhat defiant individual man with balls who took action at considerable risk to himself. That is why I want it to be Milton, and why it should be Milton.
Pretty much agree with all this, although i still watch it and enojoy it quite a bit. I just take it for what it is. Corny, B level fun.

I think Darabont was originally wanting to build something deeper, but for whatever reason, it never worked out with him.
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JFC they did everything, but tell us (which they did as well after the show) it was Milton that burned em yet we still get batshit conspiracy theories heh.
I agree.
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Pretty much agree with all this, although i still watch it and enojoy it quite a bit. I just take it for what it is. Corny, B level fun.

I think Darabont was originally wanting to build something deeper, but for whatever reason, it never worked out with him.
AMC was being cheap.
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Don't know what that map is, but the show is set in Georgia so...
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...d3ecc55ac63583 is based off the comics not the TV show.
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I'm totally caught up and I don't see what you're talking about. I wondered what happened to guy at the beginning of the show, but I forgot his name until reading this thread. I don't see how he was transparent at all. Now, him burning the walkers is a great way to bring him back, but I don't see what how he was involved this season at all.
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I'm totally caught up and I don't see what you're talking about. I wondered what happened to guy at the beginning of the show, but I forgot his name until reading this thread. I don't see how he was transparent at all. Now, him burning the walkers is a great way to bring him back, but I don't see what how he was involved this season at all.
Are you sure you're caught up on the episodes this season? Maybe you missed an episode?

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