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Old 07-19-2010, 06:06 AM  
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Old 03-17-2014, 10:16 PM   #5641
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:05 PM   #5642
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Well, even though I was ready to throw in the towel on this show last week, I caved and watched this week . . . and now I'm definitely ready to throw in the towel. Don't get me wrong; it was a superior episode to the last few weeks, Melissa McBride was outstanding, and Brighton Sharbino might be the next Dakota Fanning.

The problem I have is with the subject matter. I don't feel comfortable with children being killed - innocent ones murdered, even - in movies and TV. It wasn't always acceptable - Jurassic Park took a fair bit of pre-release criticism because of a rumor that one of the kids would get eaten, for example; now we have Hunger Games, and no one seems to mind. Yes, the plot of this episode made sense for the setting, it was dramatically and thematically justified, and well done, but I don't think that story needed to be told. It's not doing anyone any good.
Meh, I mentioned a few pages back that TV shows and most movies don't kill off babies or small children very often. However, this show is becoming more and more true to the comics. Nearly this exact situation happened in the comics and the writers know what works.
They made the audience pretty much hate Lizzy to excuse her execution. They almost did away with Judith as well but that would've been overboard at this point in time.

The show has become very serious but it still has some room for improvement.

We'll probably see an example of that next week. I don't have much faith in the next ep just from seeing the previews. It's still the best show on tv right now, though.
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:27 PM   #5643
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Just watched on the DVR. Man, really torn. It was everything this show can be from an execution standpoint. Carol and Tyreese were excellent, Lizzie was really good with that blank look.....but man, the content is difficult to stomach. I've read the comics up through leaving the prison, but the content in a black and white comic isn't as real as a TV show.
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Old 03-18-2014, 04:12 AM   #5644
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The problem I have is with the subject matter. I don't feel comfortable with children being killed - innocent ones murdered, even - in movies and TV. It wasn't always acceptable - Jurassic Park took a fair bit of pre-release criticism because of a rumor that one of the kids would get eaten, for example; now we have Hunger Games, and no one seems to mind. Yes, the plot of this episode made sense for the setting, it was dramatically and thematically justified, and well done, but I don't think that story needed to be told. It's not doing anyone any good.
If you can't take the violence in The Hunger Games, make sure you never watch Japan's Battle Royale. The Hunger Games is basically the much tamer version of that movie.
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Old 03-18-2014, 05:52 AM   #5645
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I already saw it, and yes, but it's not the violence. It's that the little kid was killed on screen. I don't think that's good for society.
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Old 03-18-2014, 06:17 AM   #5646
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Well, even though I was ready to throw in the towel on this show last week, I caved and watched this week . . . and now I'm definitely ready to throw in the towel. Don't get me wrong; it was a superior episode to the last few weeks, Melissa McBride was outstanding, and Brighton Sharbino might be the next Dakota Fanning.

The problem I have is with the subject matter. I don't feel comfortable with children being killed - innocent ones murdered, even - in movies and TV. It wasn't always acceptable - Jurassic Park took a fair bit of pre-release criticism because of a rumor that one of the kids would get eaten, for example; now we have Hunger Games, and no one seems to mind. Yes, the plot of this episode made sense for the setting, it was dramatically and thematically justified, and well done, but I don't think that story needed to be told. It's not doing anyone any good.
Definitely see what you're saying. My wife could barely watch the episode last night (DVR'd), and she said she thought Sophia was bad but at least she was a zombie. But my thought is, it's true to how hard life would be in an environment like they are in. It's just them, no police, no psychiatric hospital they can take her to, just them. She was a danger to Tyrese, Carol, and Judith not to mention everybody else they may come in contact with. She was beyond help and they knew it.

That said, don't get me wrong, it was very difficult to watch.
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Old 03-18-2014, 01:02 PM   #5647
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anybody know why Judith wasnt with Tyreese and carol at the end?
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anybody know why Judith wasnt with Tyreese and carol at the end?
She was on Tyreese's back
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She was on Tyreese's back
She was covered in the blanket on Tyreese's back.
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Definitely see what you're saying. My wife could barely watch the episode last night (DVR'd), and she said she thought Sophia was bad but at least she was a zombie. But my thought is, it's true to how hard life would be in an environment like they are in. It's just them, no police, no psychiatric hospital they can take her to, just them. She was a danger to Tyrese, Carol, and Judith not to mention everybody else they may come in contact with. She was beyond help and they knew it.

That said, don't get me wrong, it was very difficult to watch.
They had to kill her, if they let her live by separating her from them she would of did like the one woman(that rick met) did and lure people to their death. She would be a serial killer in the zombie apocalypse.
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I don't get it, is it a shock to see kids killed in a movie or tv show? You know its not real life and they are actually ok right? I have a daughter of my own and when in real life kids get killed or harmed it gets to me big time, but this is a tv show I could care less if they showed that little baby getting blown to pieces.
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I don't get it, is it a shock to see kids killed in a movie or tv show? You know its not real life and they are actually ok right? I have a daughter of my own and when in real life kids get killed or harmed it gets to me big time, but this is a tv show I could care less if they showed that little baby getting blown to pieces.
First off, it's "you couldn't care less" if that baby was blown to pieces.

Secondly, some people, (me included) are sensitive to any harm coming to children and babies. Wether it's real or not is immeterial. We, (being the majority) are sensitive to that type of thing.
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They had to kill her, if they let her live by separating her from them she would of did like the one woman(that rick met) did and lure people to their death. She would be a serial killer in the zombie apocalypse.
Absolutely agree, not too much of a choice. It made me think of 'Of Mice and Men'.

I was wondering...did Lizzie know it was coming? Or was she just upset because she thought Carol was mad at her?

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