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Old 07-26-2010, 12:51 AM  
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Season 4 premiered tonight. I would have bumped the season three thread but I titled it "season 3," which no longer seems appropriate.

Who saw it? It was a stupendous hour of television. All sorts of shit has happened in the eleven months that have passed (in-story) between the formation of Sterling Cooper Draper Price and the beginning of season 4. The premeir was stepped in the juices of the sexual revolution. It also had a lot to say about the increasing role of the media in the success or failure of things. It was great to see Don fail a little bit, and it was exciting to consider the future implications at the end of Don crafting a public/media persona that is completely unlike his actual personality.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:15 AM   #226
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:24 PM   #227
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Pete Campbell episodes are always the best, IMO.

I hope that's not it for the season though. Same goes with Lane.
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:07 AM   #228
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Watch this. I'm pretty sure this is exactly what Weiner is saying. Megan is just putting on an act.

Thanks for the link to these guys. There episode analyses are some of the best out there.
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:38 AM   #229
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Theme of having everything equates to having nothing, Pete doesn't survive the season..
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Old 04-17-2012, 04:10 PM   #230
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Theme of having everything equates to having nothing, Pete doesn't survive the season..
Didn't somebody tell Pete to buy a rifle for the gopher problem? I bet he ends up eating a bullet from said rifle.
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Old 04-17-2012, 04:19 PM   #231
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It's a rare show that can make me feel bad for a guy who both cheats on his wife and gets cockblocked when he wants to cheat on his wife. And then Don Draper becomes the moral compass?
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Old 04-17-2012, 04:30 PM   #232
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Didn't somebody tell Pete to buy a rifle for the gopher problem? I bet he ends up eating a bullet from said rifle.
Oh shit.

Pete Campbell death would be one of the biggest in TV history.
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Old 04-17-2012, 04:44 PM   #233
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loved Pete getting his ass kicked. that was so satisfying.
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:34 PM   #234
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I still just can't make myself hate Pete.

He's an arrogant little shit that wants everything now. At the same time, he's clearly a very talented account man. It's not his ability that causes him trouble, but his eagerness and his ambition. He's simply terminally dissatisfied by where he is because it's not where he wants to be.

In other words, he's the same as a TON of young professionals out there, especially talented young professionals. Professionally, he sees people ahead of him that he's clearly outperforming and is frustrated that he doesn't have the grey in his temples to get the accolades they do. Domestically he's put himself into the life that an upwardly mobile young executive is supposed to have and has realized (like most young execs) that he didn't want that life. In ten years he will, but he doesn't right now.

They won't kill him. At least I hope they won't. Roger is right in that "When the job is going well, it can fulfill all your needs" and you can see that in the very near future, the job will be going extremely well for Pete Campbell. He's just caught in that tortuous middle ground that comes with being in your late 20s/early 30s, knowing what you want and seeing a clear path to it, but just not being there yet despite knowing you'll get there someday.

Pete deserved to get his ass kicked - but in the end pretty much everyone on that show...or anywhere really...deserves to get their ass kicked at least once. Hell, Lane is no angel himself. Ultimately Pete's dissatisfaction comes from runaway ambition - I can handle that. I like him a hell of a lot more than Peggy, who's dissatisfaction comes from indecision about who she wants to be and a general sense of whininess and entitlement that's pretty damn unreasonable for someone that got plucked out of the secretarial pool.
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:03 PM   #235
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Didn't somebody tell Pete to buy a rifle for the gopher problem? I bet he ends up eating a bullet from said rifle.
He got a rifle a while ago, from store credit for the chip and dip set that they got for an anniversary.
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:11 PM   #236
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:17 PM   #237
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We finally get to see the little worm get his ass kicked and they have to try to make us feel sorry for Pete?
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Old 04-18-2012, 10:33 PM   #238
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Meh. Wouldn't be much of a show without Pete.
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:42 PM   #239
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Meh. Wouldn't be much of a show without Pete.
I dunno, I think this show has a strong enough ensemble that it could lose just about any character and still be as strong.
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