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Season 4 premiered tonight. I would have bumped the season three thread but I titled it "season 3," which no longer seems appropriate.

Who saw it? It was a stupendous hour of television. All sorts of shit has happened in the eleven months that have passed (in-story) between the formation of Sterling Cooper Draper Price and the beginning of season 4. The premeir was stepped in the juices of the sexual revolution. It also had a lot to say about the increasing role of the media in the success or failure of things. It was great to see Don fail a little bit, and it was exciting to consider the future implications at the end of Don crafting a public/media persona that is completely unlike his actual personality.
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:49 PM   #361
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When Don walked out of the TV studio, he was Lord of Creation again.

He still has his fastball...
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Old 06-10-2012, 09:03 PM   #363
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Old 06-10-2012, 09:10 PM   #364
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I don't think he will.

He's learned a great many lessons this season. Though in the end, it's possible that one of them was that death comes for us all...in which case he may just tell discretion to kiss his ass.

Ultimately I think what we saw from Don was growth. I think that's the dichotomy we'll see between young Don (with his aspiring model wife, Betty) and a wiser Don. I think Wiener wants his audience to see growth in Don. If Don bangs those girls, we're literally right back where we started in season 1, episode 1.
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Old 06-10-2012, 09:11 PM   #365
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That rated incredibly high on my meh scale - especially for a finale.

Anyone else hoping that there was evidence of a "casting call" situation on that reel?

Can we create a time machine and have Pete commit suicide and let Lane stick around?

Roger Sterling is one of my favorite characters on television right now.

I fully expect a .gif of those two dogs ****ing outside Peggy's hotel room to be posted within 24 hours.
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Old 06-10-2012, 09:18 PM   #366
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I don't think he will.

He's learned a great many lessons this season. Though in the end, it's possible that one of them was that death comes for us all...in which case he may just tell discretion to kiss his ass.

Ultimately I think what we saw from Don was growth. I think that's the dichotomy we'll see between young Don (with his aspiring model wife, Betty) and a wiser Don. I think Wiener wants his audience to see growth in Don. If Don bangs those girls, we're literally right back where we started in season 1, episode 1.
It's a great cliffhanger for Don's arc this season. I'm very confident that he's going to turn that proposal down. But I actually like leaving that refusal off-camera because the morals and psychology underlying the situation have really been the primary theme of season 5.

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That rated incredibly high on my meh scale - especially for a finale.
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Old 06-10-2012, 10:20 PM   #367
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Old 06-10-2012, 10:31 PM   #368
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I think he does it.
It all comes down to whether Don can handle Megan as actress. I mean, that's been a large part of season 5, but maybe this commercial makes Megan's career take off. He either accepts it, or he regresses as a character. Which isn't that interesting, IMO.

What might be interesting is if Megan leaves Don. One line in favor of Don being the old, cheating Don (or at least a Don without having to worry about staying faithful to Megan): when Don tells Peggy "that's what people do when you help them - they get better and move on." And Don did help Megan land that commercial.
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:53 AM   #369
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Solid final episode. I prefer an episode like that then a cliffhanger season finale.
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:58 AM   #370
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Now I'm thinking hard about that scene where Don watched Megan's screentest. What say you, CP? Did Megan's screentest show great promise as an actress? Or did it confirm that she doesn't have the stuff to make it?

I'm debating between the two readings. On one hand, Don could realize that she's got the stuff to be successful, and decides to help her on her way towards success...knowing full well that her success will drive them apart.

On the other hand, Don might just see in her screentest the same expressions that she uses in their marriage, which would be upsetting. So he is casting her aside by helping her to "get better and move on."

Or he knows that, like her mom said, she's chasing a phantom...he knows she'll never be a real artist, so he helps her get into commercial acting...knowing that advertising is the death knell of her artistic dreams. She then becomes a diminished person in Don's eyes -- much closer to Betty (remember, she was a model!) than the Megan of earlier this season. Which makes it considerably easier for Don to cheat on her, then.

And even if Don is sincerely trying to help Megan, his help makes it psychologically easier for him to cheat on her. So, like Lane's wife tells Don earlier, Don's gesture of help is mostly done for selfish reasons.


Most of the signs point to Don reverting back to full-on adulterer mode. That isn't that interesting to me; it feels like the show stalling Don's character arc to milk out a couple more seasons that the show actually needs. BUT I very much appreciate the mystery behind exactly why Don's little cliffhanger moment happens.

For a season in which Mad Men laid its themes more bare than it ever has (to the point of being frequently on-the-nose, ESPECIALLY in the finale), the last 12 minutes or so with Don brought back the mystery that this show as always thrived on.
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I'm also happy that Peggy has a character arc set up for next season. She's going to land that women's cigarette account and make it HUGE. I mean, her business trip was to Richmond, Virginia. Virginia Slims, anyone?
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I'm also happy that Peggy has a character arc set up for next season. She's going to land that women's cigarette account and make it HUGE. I mean, her business trip was to Richmond, Virginia. Virginia Slims, anyone?
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