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Old 07-26-2010, 12:51 AM  
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Season 4 premiered tonight. I would have bumped the season three thread but I titled it "season 3," which no longer seems appropriate.

Who saw it? It was a stupendous hour of television. All sorts of shit has happened in the eleven months that have passed (in-story) between the formation of Sterling Cooper Draper Price and the beginning of season 4. The premeir was stepped in the juices of the sexual revolution. It also had a lot to say about the increasing role of the media in the success or failure of things. It was great to see Don fail a little bit, and it was exciting to consider the future implications at the end of Don crafting a public/media persona that is completely unlike his actual personality.
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Old 05-10-2013, 01:41 PM   #496
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Best episode since "Shut the door, have a seat"
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Yeah, this was an excellent episode that really paid off, big time. It's probably the best epi since season three.
How quickly y'all forget about "The Suitcase."
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Old 05-10-2013, 01:42 PM   #497
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Looks like I'm in the minority on this one. I finally watched it late last night, and while a lot happened, I thought the pacing of the episode was all over the place.
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Old 05-10-2013, 01:50 PM   #498
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How quickly y'all forget about "The Suitcase."
Yes, that was a great episode!

But wow, "For Immediate Release" was to me, so amazing on so many different levels. I'm most looking forward to Peggy & Don working together again because their dynamic was so interesting to me.
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:31 PM   #499
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The Camaro was Chevy's answer to the Mustang. The Vega was a sub-compact car that came in several versions (we had the station wagon back in the early 70's).

It was considered "cutting edge" because it had an inline 4 and an aluminum engine block to go with an aluminum body. They sold in record numbers but weren't worth a crap. They rusted like crazy, had tons of mechanical problems and ended up being garbage cars.
By 1976, Chevy will have fired Don and crew...

We probably won't see that, but I'd imagine we'll see some of the bounce that comes from the buildup/unveiling of the Vega. By all accounts, the thing really did explode onto the scene.

But when it just flat started to explode, no amount of PR work could save Chevy's reputation for building awful small cars. Hell, it pretty much destroyed America's reputation when it came to compacts/sub-compacts.

DraperCo would have been the first agency to take the fall for it when sales plummeted and public opinion swayed.
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:34 PM   #500
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By 1976, Chevy will have fired Don and crew...
Or Don dumps Chevy at some point, like he did with Jaguar.
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:43 PM   #501
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Or Don dumps Chevy at some point, like he did with Jaguar.
I know we're talking about Don Draper here, but c'mon - who fires Chevy?
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:53 PM   #502
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I know we're talking about Don Draper here, but c'mon - who fires Chevy?
A smart agency that's stuck with an inferior and dangerous product.
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Old 05-19-2013, 10:31 PM   #503
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What a strange episode.
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Old 05-19-2013, 10:32 PM   #504
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hated that episode. Ken tapdancing?
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:16 AM   #505
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I expected that episode to end with a snowglobe on Bobby's desk.
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:59 AM   #506
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Yeah probably worst episode to date.
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:21 AM   #507
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Yeah probably worst episode to date.
And I think it's one of the best to date.



Don grew up in a whorehouse, surrounds himself with whores and doesn't yet realize that he, too, is a whore.

Oh, and Sylvia looks and sounds nearly identical to his whore "mother". Coincidence?

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And I think it's one of the best to date.



Don's grew up in a whorehouse, surrounds himself with whores and doesn't yet realize that he, too, is a whore.

Oh, and Sylvia looks and sounds nearly identical to his whore "mother". Coincidence?
They didn't have to have the entire office trip on drugs for Son to come to that realization.
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They didn't have to have the entire office trip on drugs for Son to come to that realization.
I don't think that Don ever reached that realization.

I thought it was very interesting and telling, especially Sylvia's treatment of Don: "I'm not afraid of my husband, I'm afraid of you". Also, the parallel of Sylvia and Don's step-mother, the soup from the whore, Sally dressing like a street-corner whore, etc. and so on.

Stan finally made a move on Peggy, only to bang Fred's daughter (Fred, in front of Don, was canonized by Ted). Ken's "Song and Dance" routine was right on the money, as he's been complaining about his role for quite some time.

All in all, it was a very good episode that's probably worth multiple viewings.
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While watching the episode I must admit I was a bit turned off, but after reflection I think I really liked that episode. I do not know where it ranks all time, but I liked it. Revelations of Don's past make clear to the viewer why he is what he is, but he still hasn't made the connection, and will probably forever remain on his path jumping from one bed to another. I am enjoying how Peggy is turning into one of the "men" around the office by doing just what all of her bosses have done, **** around on their loved ones.

Overall the title of the episode was quite apt, this was a massive wreck, and none of could look away. We just rubbernecked and shuttered at the carnage.
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