Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge > Media Center

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-06-2014, 11:10 PM  
The Bad Guy The Bad Guy is offline
Scott Pioli
 
The Bad Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: The Copacobana
Casino cash: $8662
HP Pavilion Fan Error

On my wife's laptop got an error yesterday - 90b on startup that says something wrong with cooling fan.

I updated BIOS because it appeared that the fan was working some but it's not working at all now.

I'm looking to purchase a replacement fan but haven't gotten the slightest idea what to even look for. Some say you need fan and heatsink, some say you don't.

It's an HP Pavilion G7 - model A6Z19UA#ABA.

Can anyone lead me where to potentially purchase a good replacement?

How difficult are fans to replace in laptops?

Thanks in advance for any help.
Posts: 22,389
The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2014, 11:41 PM   #2
Baby Lee Baby Lee is offline
Cake Boss!!
 
Baby Lee's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: 456 Lick My Butthole Lane
Casino cash: $29420
Can't help on your specific problem, but fan allocation is the one gripe I have about my MOBO.

It's Gigabyte and it has 4 fan identical sockets, but it appears that only one is designated 'case fan.' I've plugged any number of fans into the other sockets and shit-all happens. I've been through all the documentation and online support and can't figure out how to get the other 3 sockets to provide power to anything.

So I just went with the processor fan, the video fan, and the single biggest baddest case fan I could find on the shelves at Microcenter, it's like a box fan taped to the top of my PC case. Still have a drawer full of lesser fans that could extend my processor life if I ever figured out how to activate the pins on the MOBO.
__________________
Hunter Pence has no opinion on Lena Dunham's attractiveness.
Posts: 45,594
Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2014, 08:10 AM   #3
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
What? What?
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $8834
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bad Guy View Post
On my wife's laptop got an error yesterday - 90b on startup that says something wrong with cooling fan.

I updated BIOS because it appeared that the fan was working some but it's not working at all now.

I'm looking to purchase a replacement fan but haven't gotten the slightest idea what to even look for. Some say you need fan and heatsink, some say you don't.

It's an HP Pavilion G7 - model A6Z19UA#ABA.

Can anyone lead me where to potentially purchase a good replacement?

How difficult are fans to replace in laptops?

Thanks in advance for any help.
Most laptops have some level of integrated fan/heatsink, requiring you to change out the whole thing.

In general they aren't hard to replace though, once you figure out how to get the thing apart. Laptops aren't always intuitive when it comes to cracking the case and exposing the motherboard.

I will say a quick Google of "G7 replacement fan" suggests this might be a common problem.

The first thing I would do is take the laptop apart, expose the fan, and make sure it's not obstructed. I've seen some pretty poor airflow designs in laptops, which generally pull air from the bottom and blow it out the side. This 90-degree angle tends to collect dirt/dust/hair IN the fan itself, leading to heat buildup.

If it's not obstructed and truly not spinning, post back and we'll work on getting you a replacement.
Posts: 61,900
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2014, 08:20 AM   #4
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
What? What?
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $8834
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baby Lee View Post
Can't help on your specific problem, but fan allocation is the one gripe I have about my MOBO.

It's Gigabyte and it has 4 fan identical sockets, but it appears that only one is designated 'case fan.' I've plugged any number of fans into the other sockets and shit-all happens. I've been through all the documentation and online support and can't figure out how to get the other 3 sockets to provide power to anything.

So I just went with the processor fan, the video fan, and the single biggest baddest case fan I could find on the shelves at Microcenter, it's like a box fan taped to the top of my PC case. Still have a drawer full of lesser fans that could extend my processor life if I ever figured out how to activate the pins on the MOBO.
What motherboard model do you have?

I used to be an avid over clocker so I've used a lot of different fan combinations.
Posts: 61,900
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2014, 08:04 PM   #5
The Bad Guy The Bad Guy is offline
Scott Pioli
 
The Bad Guy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: The Copacobana
Casino cash: $8662
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe View Post
Most laptops have some level of integrated fan/heatsink, requiring you to change out the whole thing.

In general they aren't hard to replace though, once you figure out how to get the thing apart. Laptops aren't always intuitive when it comes to cracking the case and exposing the motherboard.

I will say a quick Google of "G7 replacement fan" suggests this might be a common problem.

The first thing I would do is take the laptop apart, expose the fan, and make sure it's not obstructed. I've seen some pretty poor airflow designs in laptops, which generally pull air from the bottom and blow it out the side. This 90-degree angle tends to collect dirt/dust/hair IN the fan itself, leading to heat buildup.

If it's not obstructed and truly not spinning, post back and we'll work on getting you a replacement.
After about an hour, finally got it apart. No obstruction - just not spinning.
__________________
Posts: 22,389
The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.The Bad Guy 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2014, 08:25 PM   #6
Baby Lee Baby Lee is offline
Cake Boss!!
 
Baby Lee's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: 456 Lick My Butthole Lane
Casino cash: $29420
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe View Post
What motherboard model do you have?

I used to be an avid over clocker so I've used a lot of different fan combinations.
GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3

2 sys_fan, pwr_fan, cpu_fan

__________________
Hunter Pence has no opinion on Lena Dunham's attractiveness.

Last edited by Baby Lee; 02-07-2014 at 08:35 PM..
Posts: 45,594
Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2014, 04:02 PM   #7
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
What? What?
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $8834
I got some stuff to do today but I'll take a look at both of these and get back to you guys ASAP.
Posts: 61,900
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2014, 09:21 PM   #8
jspchief jspchief is offline
BAMF
 
jspchief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Your Face
Casino cash: $9567
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baby Lee View Post
Can't help on your specific problem, but fan allocation is the one gripe I have about my MOBO.

It's Gigabyte and it has 4 fan identical sockets, but it appears that only one is designated 'case fan.' I've plugged any number of fans into the other sockets and shit-all happens. I've been through all the documentation and online support and can't figure out how to get the other 3 sockets to provide power to anything.

So I just went with the processor fan, the video fan, and the single biggest baddest case fan I could find on the shelves at Microcenter, it's like a box fan taped to the top of my PC case. Still have a drawer full of lesser fans that could extend my processor life if I ever figured out how to activate the pins on the MOBO.
Just connect the other fans to the power supply?
__________________
Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear.
The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
Posts: 24,328
jspchief wants to die in a aids tree fire.jspchief wants to die in a aids tree fire.jspchief wants to die in a aids tree fire.jspchief wants to die in a aids tree fire.jspchief wants to die in a aids tree fire.jspchief wants to die in a aids tree fire.jspchief wants to die in a aids tree fire.jspchief wants to die in a aids tree fire.jspchief wants to die in a aids tree fire.jspchief wants to die in a aids tree fire.jspchief wants to die in a aids tree fire.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2014, 09:25 PM   #9
Fish Fish is offline
Missing Dick Curl
 
Fish's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Casino cash: $11361
Quote:
Originally Posted by jspchief View Post
Just connect the other fans to the power supply?
Also if you don't have appropriate connectors, you can always get adapters for whatever available lines you have coming from the power supply.
__________________
Posts: 26,232
Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2014, 09:52 PM   #10
TheUte TheUte is offline
Starter
 
TheUte's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2013
Casino cash: $8518
Did you check the Bios, I think GB has some voltage and speed controls in the Bios.
Posts: 981
TheUte would the whole thing.TheUte would the whole thing.TheUte would the whole thing.TheUte would the whole thing.TheUte would the whole thing.TheUte would the whole thing.TheUte would the whole thing.TheUte would the whole thing.TheUte would the whole thing.TheUte would the whole thing.TheUte would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2014, 03:11 PM   #11
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
What? What?
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $8834
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish View Post
Also if you don't have appropriate connectors, you can always get adapters for whatever available lines you have coming from the power supply.
Correct.

You can get Molex adapters.
Posts: 61,900
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2014, 03:19 PM   #12
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
What? What?
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $8834
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baby Lee View Post
GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3

2 sys_fan, pwr_fan, cpu_fan

OK, the CPU fan header is definitely a 4-pin header. 3 of the pins are for power and the 4th pin controls the fan speed. Depending on your CPU cooler fan, it may only have 3 pins. This means it has to line up directly with the power leads on the header or it won't spin.

I found the PWR fan header and it's only 3-pin so it should work regardless (although I'm not sure what it's actually used for, I've never used one).

I couldn't find the SYS fan headers (they weren't clearly labeled) but I did find one other header and it was also 4-pin, so the above would also apply to these.

If your fans only have 3 leads, line them up with the power leads and they'll run 100% rpm all the time. If your fans have 4 leads, you have to setup fan speed control in the BIOS most likely.
Posts: 61,900
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2014, 03:21 PM   #13
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
What? What?
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $8834
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bad Guy View Post
After about an hour, finally got it apart. No obstruction - just not spinning.
You're in luck, it looks like most of the HP G7's have stand-alone fans (not integrated directly with the heatsink).

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=hp+pavilion+g7+fan
Posts: 61,900
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2014, 04:02 PM   #14
TheUte TheUte is offline
Starter
 
TheUte's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2013
Casino cash: $8518
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe View Post
OK, the CPU fan header is definitely a 4-pin header. 3 of the pins are for power and the 4th pin controls the fan speed. Depending on your CPU cooler fan, it may only have 3 pins. This means it has to line up directly with the power leads on the header or it won't spin.

I found the PWR fan header and it's only 3-pin so it should work regardless (although I'm not sure what it's actually used for, I've never used one).

I couldn't find the SYS fan headers (they weren't clearly labeled) but I did find one other header and it was also 4-pin, so the above would also apply to these.

If your fans only have 3 leads, line them up with the power leads and they'll run 100% rpm all the time. If your fans have 4 leads, you have to setup fan speed control in the BIOS most likely.
Very unlikely that 3 fan header are bad and no other problems.

One thing to try is a Bios update.
Posts: 981
TheUte would the whole thing.TheUte would the whole thing.TheUte would the whole thing.TheUte would the whole thing.TheUte would the whole thing.TheUte would the whole thing.TheUte would the whole thing.TheUte would the whole thing.TheUte would the whole thing.TheUte would the whole thing.TheUte would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2014, 05:43 PM   #15
Baby Lee Baby Lee is offline
Cake Boss!!
 
Baby Lee's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: 456 Lick My Butthole Lane
Casino cash: $29420
Speaking of which, and people may not even be aware of what I'm talking about, but I have the System Monitor II gadget, and it'll post CPU temp if you also run the CoreTemp app. But every time I try to run CoreTemp it completely freezes my system, every 2-3 minutes I can get the rick click on the desktop to come up, but nothing else. I have to shut it down via the power button on the case.

http://www.myfavoritegadgets.info/mo...monitorII.html
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
__________________
Hunter Pence has no opinion on Lena Dunham's attractiveness.
Posts: 45,594
Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:23 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
A new website that shows member-created construction site listings that need fill or have excess fill. Dirt Monkey @ https://DirtMonkey.net
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.