Elections So it's an extremely hot summer.

Direckshun · 08-14-2010, 10:04 PM

Setting up to be the hottest on record. Summers are getting hotter and hotter.

Etc. You know where I'm going with this.

Are there still people here that doubt climate change/global warming as a serious planet-wide threat?

For the people here who believe in it, what should be done?

Carbon pricing?

Cap and trade (or as Republicans say: "cancer and aids")?

Direct government sponsoring of alternative energy R&D?

Carbon capture and storage?

Mere adaption?

2bikemike · 08-14-2010, 10:31 PM

I don't know were having one of the coolest summers on record.

mikey23545 · 08-15-2010, 01:08 AM

Temperatures continue well below average in Southern California
By Hector Gonzalez Staff Writer
Posted: 08/09/2010 04:09:43 PM PDT

Weather Service says its been four degrees cooler than it was last year at this time and we could be on track for one of the coolest summers on record. They're blaming La Nina, saying we normally get cooler summers during years when we transition from El Nino to La Nina, which is forecast for this winter. (SGVN/Staff Photo by Walt Mancini/SXCity)

It hasn't been the coolest summer on record, but it's been close, forecasters say.

The average temperature in July was 79 degrees, five degrees below normal, and the first eight days of this month also have been five to six degrees below normal, weather experts said.

Read more: Temperatures continue well below average in Southern California - Whittier Daily News http://www.whittierdailynews.com/new...#ixzz0wejYB2vI

Silock · 08-15-2010, 04:31 AM

There's another option: Those of us that acknowledge something is funky with the temperatures, but are still far from convinced we are responsible for it. I mean, this isn't the hottest it's EVER been since humans have been around, just like last winter wasn't the coldest it's EVER been.

FD · 08-15-2010, 05:22 AM

Revenue neutral carbon tax.

Oucho Cinco · 08-15-2010, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Setting up to be the hottest on record. Summers are getting hotter and hotter.

Etc. You know where I'm going with this.

Are there still people here that doubt climate change/global warming as a serious planet-wide threat?

For the people here who believe in it, what should be done?

Carbon pricing?

Cap and trade (or as Republicans say: "cancer and aids")?

Direct government sponsoring of alternative energy R&D?

Carbon capture and storage?

Mere adaption?

Key word in your comment, "hottest on record".

Another word that is missing is cyclical. I have no doubt it's been this hot before, the Summer of 2007 was hot. The volcano in the North Atlantic caused more problems in a 4 day period than mankind has in the past 400 according to some reporters.

Garcia Bronco · 08-15-2010, 05:53 AM

I don't know which is dumber...the people that think we are causing golbal warming or the people that think we can do something about it.

Mile High Mania · 08-15-2010, 07:17 AM

I've heard Republicans call it cap and tax, but not the other...

All I know is that I live in Dallas and yeah it's hot, but not the hottest summer on record. And, we're coming off a winter when it snowed 3-4 times... and it rarely does that once.

So, take your global warming/climate change theories and shove 'em up Gore's butt...

Oucho Cinco · 08-15-2010, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

I don't know which is dumber...the people that think we are causing golbal warming or the people that think we can do something about it.

You can probably lump them all into the same group as Al Gore, they don't know, don't care but think they can make some money from the name alone.

HonestChieffan · 08-15-2010, 07:32 AM

Clearly the answer is to raise taxes.

healthpellets · 08-15-2010, 07:35 AM

i believe that if you believe in global warming, and the impact of that concerns you, you should work hard to eliminate the impact of global warming and you should donate money to that cause.

however, unless you provide me with evidence that is pretty conclusive (something similar to the evidence of evolution) then please understand that i might not agree with you that it is a massive, world-consuming problem. nor do i support increasing energy taxes or personal taxes to combat this issue.

I HAVE A REQUEST:

if you ARE convinced that global warming is a real threat to the human race, and that humans are the cause of this problem, please provide documentaries / websites / books / other evidence that proves your position.

if you are NOT convinced that global warming is a real threat to the human race, and that humans are the cause of this problem, please provide documentaries / websites / books / other evidence that proves your position.

HonestChieffan · 08-15-2010, 07:47 AM

We should ration carbon producing things.

Limit cars to 4 cyl, tax 6 and 8 cyl till they are recycled, all highways should be toll roads, any manufacturing should be assessed so that in every step from raws to finished goods we account for the carbon produced and apply tariffs to each step.

There should be government programs that apply penalties to those who don't reduce and offer big benefits for those who do reduce.

Its a global issue so all countries should be joined by a governing body that has the power to enforce set rules and requirements.

BucEyedPea · 08-15-2010, 08:14 AM

It's hot because of all left's hot air escaping their mouths the past two years. Gore's made big bucks off govt on this issue leading to suggestions he may stand trial. Greedy Greens.

Oucho Cinco · 08-15-2010, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by healthpellets

i believe that if you believe in global warming, and the impact of that concerns you, you should work hard to eliminate the impact of global warming and you should donate money to that cause.

however, unless you provide me with evidence that is pretty conclusive (something similar to the evidence of evolution) then please understand that i might not agree with you that it is a massive, world-consuming problem. nor do i support increasing energy taxes or personal taxes to combat this issue.

I HAVE A REQUEST:

if you ARE convinced that global warming is a real threat to the human race, and that humans are the cause of this problem, please provide documentaries / websites / books / other evidence that proves your position.

if you are NOT convinced that global warming is a real threat to the human race, and that humans are the cause of this problem, please provide documentaries / websites / books / other evidence that proves your position.

Asking for something that does not exist gives you the horsepower to stand with your belief, whatever it is.

HonestChieffan · 08-15-2010, 08:24 AM

It was hot in KC so that should be proof to anyone. August heat that goes on for days. Proof is in the pudding.

08-14-2010, 10:04 PM
Direckshun Black for Palestine Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $1166550	So it's an extremely hot summer. Setting up to be the hottest on record. Summers are getting hotter and hotter. Etc. You know where I'm going with this. Are there still people here that doubt climate change/global warming as a serious planet-wide threat? For the people here who believe in it, what should be done? Carbon pricing? Cap and trade (or as Republicans say: "cancer and aids")? Direct government sponsoring of alternative energy R&D? Carbon capture and storage? Mere adaption?
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08-14-2010, 10:31 PM	#2
2bikemike Born to Ride Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: El Cajon Calif. Casino cash: $41830	I don't know were having one of the coolest summers on record.
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08-15-2010, 01:08 AM	#3
mikey23545 MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $149648	Temperatures continue well below average in Southern California By Hector Gonzalez Staff Writer Posted: 08/09/2010 04:09:43 PM PDT Weather Service says its been four degrees cooler than it was last year at this time and we could be on track for one of the coolest summers on record. They're blaming La Nina, saying we normally get cooler summers during years when we transition from El Nino to La Nina, which is forecast for this winter. (SGVN/Staff Photo by Walt Mancini/SXCity) It hasn't been the coolest summer on record, but it's been close, forecasters say. The average temperature in July was 79 degrees, five degrees below normal, and the first eight days of this month also have been five to six degrees below normal, weather experts said. Read more: Temperatures continue well below average in Southern California - Whittier Daily News http://www.whittierdailynews.com/new...#ixzz0wejYB2vI
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08-15-2010, 04:31 AM	#4
Silock MVP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $81011	There's another option: Those of us that acknowledge something is funky with the temperatures, but are still far from convinced we are responsible for it. I mean, this isn't the hottest it's EVER been since humans have been around, just like last winter wasn't the coldest it's EVER been.
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08-15-2010, 05:22 AM	#5
FD Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Austin, TX Casino cash: $1003124	Revenue neutral carbon tax. __________________ Homer: [looking at watch] Two hours? Why'd they build this ghost town so far away? Lisa: Because they discovered gold over there! Homer: It's because they're stupid, that's why. That's why everybody does everything.
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08-15-2010, 05:53 AM	#7
Garcia Bronco No Keys, No Problem Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver Casino cash: $59478	I don't know which is dumber...the people that think we are causing golbal warming or the people that think we can do something about it.
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08-15-2010, 07:17 AM	#8
Mile High Mania Barrel Man - RIP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $67713	I've heard Republicans call it cap and tax, but not the other... All I know is that I live in Dallas and yeah it's hot, but not the hottest summer on record. And, we're coming off a winter when it snowed 3-4 times... and it rarely does that once. So, take your global warming/climate change theories and shove 'em up Gore's butt... __________________
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08-15-2010, 07:32 AM	#10
HonestChieffan Hoffa called me an SOB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the Country in MO Casino cash: $1220424	Clearly the answer is to raise taxes. __________________ "The best time to sell peanuts is when the circus is in town."
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08-15-2010, 07:47 AM	#12
HonestChieffan Hoffa called me an SOB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the Country in MO Casino cash: $1220424	We should ration carbon producing things. Limit cars to 4 cyl, tax 6 and 8 cyl till they are recycled, all highways should be toll roads, any manufacturing should be assessed so that in every step from raws to finished goods we account for the carbon produced and apply tariffs to each step. There should be government programs that apply penalties to those who don't reduce and offer big benefits for those who do reduce. Its a global issue so all countries should be joined by a governing body that has the power to enforce set rules and requirements. __________________ "The best time to sell peanuts is when the circus is in town."
Posts: 21,900

08-15-2010, 08:14 AM	#13
BucEyedPea Frazod Loves Hammy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: None of your business Casino cash: $48588	It's hot because of all left's hot air escaping their mouths the past two years. Gore's made big bucks off govt on this issue leading to suggestions he may stand trial. Greedy Greens. __________________ "In government, the scum rises to the top."~ Hayek
Posts: 46,519

08-15-2010, 08:24 AM	#15
HonestChieffan Hoffa called me an SOB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the Country in MO Casino cash: $1220424	It was hot in KC so that should be proof to anyone. August heat that goes on for days. Proof is in the pudding. __________________ "The best time to sell peanuts is when the circus is in town."
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