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Old 08-18-2010, 12:47 PM  
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Mosque supporters beg George W. Bush to come to Obama's rescue
By: Byron York
Chief Political Correspondent
08/18/10 10:02 AM EDT

(File photo) Former President George W. Bush
There's a new argument emerging among supporters of the Ground Zero mosque. Distressed by President Obama's waffling on the issue, they're calling on former President George W. Bush to announce his support for the project, because in this case Bush understands better than Obama the connection between the war on terror and the larger question of America's relationship with Islam. It's an extraordinary change of position for commentators who long argued that Bush had done grievous harm to America's image in the Muslim world and that Obama represented a fresh start for the United States. Nevertheless, they are now seeing a different side of the former president.
"It's time for W. to weigh in," writes the New York Times' Maureen Dowd. Bush, Dowd explains, understands that "you can't have an effective war against the terrorists if it is a war on Islam." Dowd finds it "odd" that Obama seems less sure on that matter. But to set things back on the right course, she says, "W. needs to get his bullhorn back out" -- a reference to Bush's famous "the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!" speech at Ground Zero on September 14, 2001.
Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson is also looking for an assist from Bush. "Iwould love to hear from former President Bush on this issue," Robinson wrote Tuesday in a Post chat session. "He held Ramadan iftar dinners in the White House as part of a much broader effort to show that our fight against the al-Qaeda murderers who attacked us on 9/11 was not a crusade against Islam. He was absolutely right on this point, and it would be helpful to hear his views."
And Peter Beinart, a former editor of the New Republic, is also feeling some nostalgia for the former president. "Words I never thought I'd write: I pine for George W. Bush," Beinart wrote Tuesday in The Daily Beast. "Whatever his flaws, the man respected religion, all religion." Beinart longs for the days when Bush "used to say that the 'war on terror' was a struggle on behalf of Muslims, decent folks who wanted nothing more than to live free like you and me"
For the moment, with Obama failing to live up to expectations, Bush-bashing is over. It's all a little amusing -- and perhaps a little maddening -- for some members of the Bush circle. When I asked Karl Rove to comment, he responded that it means "redemption is always available for liberals and time causes even the most stubborn of ideologues to revisit mistaken judgments." But won't these Bush critics shortly return to criticizing Bush? "This Bush swoon by selected members of the left commentariat is temporary," Rove answered. "Their swamp fevers will return momentarily."
Bush himself has declined to comment on the mosque affair.


Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/op...#ixzz0wz7MEgz5
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Old 08-18-2010, 01:49 PM   #2
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GW got a great deal of hate thrown his way as President and I think History will shut those hater up in the years to come. He won't be a Washington, Monroe, or Jackson, but for Pete's sake he wasn't US Grant, Madison, or Carter.

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Old 08-18-2010, 02:21 PM   #3
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GW got a great deal of hate thrown his way as President and I think History will shut those hater up in the years to come. He won't be a Washington, Monrow, or Jackson, but for Pete's sake he wasn't US Grant, Madison, or Carter.
I think history will soften on him through time, but he will never be considered a "good" or even "mediocre" president. Things like the war in Iraq and the federal govt's failure in Hurricane Katrina will weigh his historical image down. He will get credit for walking into a tough situation (9/11 followed by an economy in decline), however.

I will give GW credit for one thing, he could be a funny bastard at times and he was adept and being witty on his feet.
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Old 08-18-2010, 02:27 PM   #4
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Bush himself has declined to comment on the mosque affair.
Good, let douche bag Barry take the hit, **** him.


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Old 08-18-2010, 02:44 PM   #5
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GW got a great deal of hate thrown his way as President and I think History will shut those hater up in the years to come. He won't be a Washington, Monrow, or Jackson, but for Pete's sake he wasn't US Grant, Madison, or Carter.
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Old 08-18-2010, 03:41 PM   #6
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I think history will soften on him through time, but he will never be considered a "good" or even "mediocre" president. Things like the war in Iraq and the federal govt's failure in Hurricane Katrina will weigh his historical image down. He will get credit for walking into a tough situation (9/11 followed by an economy in decline), however.

I will give GW credit for one thing, he could be a funny bastard at times and he was adept and being witty on his feet.
Katrina was neither his responsibility nor was the response the Federal Governments fault or bad or however you want to describe it. Props to him for taking the blame, but the reality is that the state of LA and the city of NO are at fault for their situation. Mobile, Ala didn't have the problems LA did. Why? I can remember watching helicopters trying to land supplies in NO and all the people there trying to take the helicopter down. No supplies were left. I can remember the reports about locals shooting at the rescue helicopters so much that the military had to come in a confiscate weapons. Lastly and people forget...FEMA successfully responded to over 6 major hurricanes that year with 4 of them before Katrina. There is more than what I listed here.
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Old 08-18-2010, 03:50 PM   #7
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Katrina was neither his responsibility nor was the response the Federal Governments fault or bad or however you want to describe it. Props to him for taking the blame, but the reality is that the state of LA and the city of NO are at fault for their situation. Mobile, Ala didn't have the problems LA did. Why? I can remember watching helicopters trying to land supplies in NO and all the people there trying to take the helicopter down. No supplies were left. I can remember the reports about locals shooting at the rescue helicopters so much that the military had to come in a confiscate weapons. Lastly and people forget...FEMA successfully responded to over 6 major hurricanes that year with 4 of them before Katrina. There is more than what I listed here.
How about residents of NO in many many cases not helping with the clean up of their own homes? More often than not they just sat back and watched the volunteers clean up their shit because they of course are "entitled"
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Old 08-18-2010, 03:59 PM   #8
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Obama is doing a horrific job, but that doesn't excuse Bush of his crappy presidency, either. The Patriot Act and bail-outs are a big **** you to the honest, tax payers of this country. He opened the door, for Obama to CONTINUE many of his policies. Two wrongs, don't make a right.
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Katrina was neither his responsibility nor was the response the Federal Governments fault or bad or however you want to describe it. Props to him for taking the blame, but the reality is that the state of LA and the city of NO are at fault for their situation. Mobile, Ala didn't have the problems LA did. Why? I can remember watching helicopters trying to land supplies in NO and all the people there trying to take the helicopter down. No supplies were left. I can remember the reports about locals shooting at the rescue helicopters so much that the military had to come in a confiscate weapons. Lastly and people forget...FEMA successfully responded to over 6 major hurricanes that year with 4 of them before Katrina. There is more than what I listed here.
Heh, I got this in an email a few days ago and it goes well with your post.

" Even after the recent Super Bowl victory of the New Orleans Saints , I have noticed a large number of people implying with bad jokes that Cajuns aren't smart. I would like to state for the record that I disagree with that assessment. Anybody that would build a city 5 feet below sea level in a hurricane zone and fill it with Democrats is a damn genius" .

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Heh, I got this in an email a few days ago and it goes well with your post.

" Even after the recent Super Bowl victory of the New Orleans Saints , I have noticed a large number of people implying with bad jokes that Cajuns aren't smart. I would like to state for the record that I disagree with that assessment. Anybody that would build a city 5 feet below sea level in a hurricane zone and fill it with Democrats is a damn genius" .

That was ****ing funny.
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BarryO's gotta bring Bush in on this so that he can blame it on him later.
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GW got a great deal of hate thrown his way as President and I think History will shut those hater up in the years to come. He won't be a Washington, Monroe, or Jackson, but for Pete's sake he wasn't US Grant, Madison, or Carter.
You think Andrew Jackson was a good president????

Oh lord. Andrew Jackson was one of the worst.
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GW got a great deal of hate thrown his way as President and I think History will shut those hater up in the years to come. He won't be a Washington, Monroe, or Jackson, but for Pete's sake he wasn't US Grant, Madison, or Carter.
Monroe and Jackson can go to hell.

Madison wasn't that bad.
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Old 08-20-2010, 10:34 PM   #15
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Purely, and simply....Bush should say, "No, thanks."

In an ideal world, he'd tell them to "Go fugg yourselves. Seriously."

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