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Old 08-19-2010, 12:15 PM  
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Kos starts campaign to end the filibuster

Today we're launching a campaign to end the filibuster. Join this campaign by clicking the link below and signing the petition that appears:

Ending the filibuster starts here
Here's how signing the petition makes a difference.

We'll deliver the petition to every Democratic nominee for Senate and every returning Democratic Senator. When we do, we'll get them on record about whether they agree that the rules of the Senate can, and should, be changed with a simple majority vote on the first day of Congress next year.
Once 51 returning and potential Senators have come out in support, we'll have proven that changing Senate rules is possible with a simple majority vote.

Sign the petition, prove change is possible

Entrenched power players like Joe Lieberman, Max Baucus, Ben Nelson and Mary Landrieu have all depended on the filibuster to enable Republican obstructionism and water down progressive legislation. Corporate interests have used it to protect themselves by purchasing a few small state Senators on the cheap.

There's no bigger decision Senate Democrats will make next year. The Senate is where good legislation goes to die. Democrats can either change a system that allows a tiny unaccountable minority to thwart the will of the country, or they can continue being part of the problem.

Sign the petition, join the campaign

Let's get started,
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:15 PM   #2
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:16 PM   #3
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:17 PM   #4
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:19 PM   #5
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:55 PM   #6
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Couldn't they have changed the filibuster rule at the beginning of the session if they wanted to? I thought that was one of the rules that could be altered.
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Old 08-19-2010, 01:27 PM   #7
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Old 08-19-2010, 01:46 PM   #8
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:13 PM   #9
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Old 08-19-2010, 05:04 PM   #10
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Couldn't they have changed the filibuster rule at the beginning of the session if they wanted to? I thought that was one of the rules that could be altered.
The rules arguably can be changed at any time, even in the middle of a session. A simple majority can change the rule that says rules during the middle of a session can only be changed with a super-majority, by a simple majority, then they can go about doing what they want.

Any time any party, democrat or republican, whines and cries about not getting what they want because of a filibuster, I call bullshit. I have no sympathy at all for someone not overcoming a filibuster because it only exists at the whims of a majority. Any time a bill is filibustered to death, that only proves the majority may have sort of wanted something, but they just didn't want it badly enough.

I agree with the goal of kos, if not the obvious transparent motive driving it.
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Old 08-19-2010, 05:26 PM   #11
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If I'm not mistaken, the Democrats currently have the largest majority in congress than any political party has had since the 1970's. All they're looking for, apparently, is political cover.

I neither agree with the goal, and certainly not their motives. Government has managed to grow for the last 50 years despite the filibuster.
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:22 PM   #12
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Old 08-20-2010, 12:02 AM   #13
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That's what you get from the left. A bunch of whining cry babies that can't stand the idea of not getting their way.
LOL...fortunately for these limp dicks, if conservatives get control, they wont experience any real soft tyranny like their brethren have attempted to foist on the rest of us.
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Old 08-20-2010, 01:56 AM   #14
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LOL...fortunately for these limp dicks, if conservatives get control, they wont experience any real soft tyranny like their brethren have attempted to foist on the rest of us.

In fairness, they feel like someone investing in a network and providing them internet service and then turn around and ask them to pay for it is a form of tyranny.
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Old 08-20-2010, 08:44 AM   #15
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In fairness, they feel like someone investing in a network and providing them internet service and then turn around and ask them to pay for it is a form of tyranny.
In fairness, me paying for Comcast to come to my house to fix their shit that is messed up is a form of WTF'ery. While my philosophical allegiances certainly understand and agree with what you're saying my real world experience precludes me from drumming up a lot of sympathy for ISP and cable providers (which are usually one and the same).

That said, Markos and anybody else suggesting to end the filibuster is flat wrong and does not understand the purpose and function of the Senate. The Senate, despite being elected by the public, is a body to represent the States, which is why every state has....say it with me now....equal representation. Because, in the eyes of the founders and states with small populations, they recognized that majority rule would subject them to the tyranny of population centers. The Senate is a bulwark against secession and ensures that all states and all people have a platform of equality to have their say.

As the saying goes, "Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting what to have for dinner, liberty is a well armed sheep contesting the vote." In lieu of armed conflict I give you the Senate.
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