Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge > D.C.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-11-2010, 03:01 PM  
irishjayhawk irishjayhawk is offline
Feelin' Alright
 
irishjayhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Casino cash: $5000
Teaching 9/11 in the classroom

Last night before SU2C on NBC, they ran a story about a town in Kansas teaching 9/11 in high school and a push to make it mandatory. Essentially, they wanted kids to "never forget" and to "understand the causes".

My question is simple:

Is that dangerous?

Don't get me wrong. I'm all for remembering the day but it's the "understanding causes" that raises my eyebrows. It can be a mixed bag. People drawing the line back to Reagan and the Iran Contra (or just weapon dealing in general), or the failures in Afghanistan (aka Charlie Wilson's War), American "freedoms", Western vs Eastern views or Islam itself?

I have a hard time any class will cover the subject evenhandedly. Or even attempt to. Obviously, I haven't seen the curriculum but "Islam itself" might get more play than weapons dealing. Or the like.

Thoughts?
Posts: 16,887
irishjayhawk is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.irishjayhawk is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.irishjayhawk is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.irishjayhawk is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.irishjayhawk is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.irishjayhawk is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.irishjayhawk is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.irishjayhawk is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 04:53 PM   #2
eazyb81 eazyb81 is offline
The Illuminati
 
eazyb81's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: the road less traveled
Casino cash: $5000
We should probably wait for Obama and Sebelius to tell us what to say. Until then sit tight and don't teach anything.
Posts: 12,025
eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.eazyb81 would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 04:56 PM   #3
SNR SNR is online now
POE = MOTHER****ING COELACANTH
 
SNR's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Where the hell is SNR
Casino cash: $23343
I think you nailed it. The nation is still split between different theories in terms of what caused it. This isn't exactly WWII. It's much more elusive.

This is the kind of subject that should be saved for a college class and not public school, where students aren't taught how to think, how to question, and how to look at an issue like 9/11 and understand why terrorism exists, why the US ignored so many of the warning signs, and why it's still a hot issue today.
Posts: 58,086
SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 05:21 PM   #4
Jenson71 Jenson71 is offline
fides quaerens intellectum
 
Jenson71's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Iowa
Casino cash: $5000
They should be taught about it as they are taught WWII, Vietnam, the 60s, the American Revolution.
Posts: 5,342
Jenson71 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jenson71 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jenson71 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jenson71 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jenson71 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jenson71 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jenson71 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jenson71 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jenson71 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jenson71 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jenson71 Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 06:34 PM   #5
SNR SNR is online now
POE = MOTHER****ING COELACANTH
 
SNR's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Where the hell is SNR
Casino cash: $23343
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenson71 View Post
They should be taught about it as they are taught WWII, Vietnam, the 60s, the American Revolution.
If their education on those subjects was anything like my education on those subjects in high school, that doesn't bode very well.
Posts: 58,086
SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.SNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 06:37 PM   #6
WoodDraw WoodDraw is offline
Veteran
 
WoodDraw's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Casino cash: $5159
As along as we can get the Texas legislature to write the textbook, we're golden.
Posts: 3,785
WoodDraw has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.WoodDraw has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.WoodDraw has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.WoodDraw has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.WoodDraw has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.WoodDraw has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.WoodDraw has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.WoodDraw has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.WoodDraw has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.WoodDraw has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.WoodDraw has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 06:45 PM   #7
Mile High Mania Mile High Mania is offline
Tapping out ...
 
Mile High Mania's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Tejas
Casino cash: $10097
Bottom line ... teach your kids what you want them to know on topics like 911. The school version will be "light" and "politically correct".

My 8 year old asked me about it today - he knew that "bad guys attacked the twin towers". So, we talked about it, but it's difficult because of the fact that we live in a diverse area and he has friends that are muslim - nice families. So, there's a thin line and I hope we're doing it right.
__________________

Posts: 20,156
Mile High Mania Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mile High Mania Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mile High Mania Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mile High Mania Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mile High Mania Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mile High Mania Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mile High Mania Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mile High Mania Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mile High Mania Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mile High Mania Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Mile High Mania Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 06:50 PM   #8
Jerm Jerm is offline
Point Pressin' 24/7
 
Jerm's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kansas City, MO
Casino cash: $10439
It should only be a topic if all viewpoints, ideas, and thoughts will be implemented and welcome.

So basically I think it comes down to the teacher.

I had an awesome history teacher...we talked about all kinds of stuff from JFK's murder to Roswell to Vietnam and the Gulf of Tonkin, etc. and he was open and will to let anyone voice what they thought and then we'd debate or discuss it.
__________________

Operation Killscreen...let's do this...
Posts: 4,723
Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 06:57 PM   #9
Brock Brock is offline
Do it.
 
Brock's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Larryville
Casino cash: $6542
All viewpoints, ideas, and thoughts are not worthy of being implemented or welcomed.
Posts: 42,943
Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 07:03 PM   #10
|Zach| |Zach| is offline
For The Glory Of The City
 
|Zach|'s Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Kansas City
Casino cash: $6914
Quote:
Originally Posted by SNR View Post
I think you nailed it. The nation is still split between different theories in terms of what caused it. This isn't exactly WWII. It's much more elusive.

This is the kind of subject that should be saved for a college class and not public school, where students aren't taught how to think, how to question, and how to look at an issue like 9/11 and understand why terrorism exists, why the US ignored so many of the warning signs, and why it's still a hot issue today.
I hear what you are saying but...you can't teach American history in HS and just skip it.
__________________
Posts: 45,794
|Zach| has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.|Zach| has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.|Zach| has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.|Zach| has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.|Zach| has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.|Zach| has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.|Zach| has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.|Zach| has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.|Zach| has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.|Zach| has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.|Zach| has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 07:05 PM   #11
BucEyedPea BucEyedPea is offline
Bless FSU!
 
BucEyedPea's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $23706
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brock View Post
All viewpoints, ideas, and thoughts are not worthy of being implemented or welcomed.
fascism


I await the arrival of slainte now.
__________________
“The power to declare war, including the power of judging the causes of war, is fully and exclusively vested in the legislature.” ~ James Madison, Father of the Constitution

“We do not believe in aggressive or preventive war. Such war is the weapon of dictators, not of free democratic countries like the United States.”~ Truman, Sept 1, 1950
Posts: 59,901
BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 07:08 PM   #12
BucEyedPea BucEyedPea is offline
Bless FSU!
 
BucEyedPea's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $23706
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania View Post
Bottom line ... teach your kids what you want them to know on topics like 911. The school version will be "light" and "politically correct".

My 8 year old asked me about it today - he knew that "bad guys attacked the twin towers". So, we talked about it, but it's difficult because of the fact that we live in a diverse area and he has friends that are muslim - nice families. So, there's a thin line and I hope we're doing it right.
My kid's preschool were wrapped up discussing Clinton being "bad" because he "kissed a girl."

My daughter has now read The Thousand Year War as part of a course in Mid East studies. She understands why 9/11 happened. I don't need no stinkin' PC public school to tell her anything.
__________________
“The power to declare war, including the power of judging the causes of war, is fully and exclusively vested in the legislature.” ~ James Madison, Father of the Constitution

“We do not believe in aggressive or preventive war. Such war is the weapon of dictators, not of free democratic countries like the United States.”~ Truman, Sept 1, 1950
Posts: 59,901
BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 07:09 PM   #13
Brock Brock is offline
Do it.
 
Brock's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Larryville
Casino cash: $6542
Quote:
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea View Post
fascism


I await the arrival of slainte now.
Case in point.
Posts: 42,943
Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 07:11 PM   #14
Hog Farmer Hog Farmer is online now
Good Donkey = Dead Donkey
 
Hog Farmer's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2001
Casino cash: $12429
Ok kids, let me have your attention class . Attention.

Today we are going to learn what happens when your father ****s goats and reads the Quran of which I have a copy of to pass around along with a pack of matches.
Posts: 15,929
Hog Farmer has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Hog Farmer has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Hog Farmer has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Hog Farmer has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Hog Farmer has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Hog Farmer has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Hog Farmer has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Hog Farmer has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Hog Farmer has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Hog Farmer has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Hog Farmer has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 07:18 PM   #15
Jerm Jerm is offline
Point Pressin' 24/7
 
Jerm's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kansas City, MO
Casino cash: $10439
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brock View Post
All viewpoints, ideas, and thoughts are not worthy of being implemented or welcomed.
Oh's that right..."don't think for yourself, we'll just force feed it to ya".

__________________

Operation Killscreen...let's do this...
Posts: 4,723
Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Jerm Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:42 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
A new website that shows member-created construction site listings that need fill or have excess fill. Dirt Monkey @ https://DirtMonkey.net
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.