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Old 09-11-2010, 02:01 PM  
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Teaching 9/11 in the classroom

Last night before SU2C on NBC, they ran a story about a town in Kansas teaching 9/11 in high school and a push to make it mandatory. Essentially, they wanted kids to "never forget" and to "understand the causes".

My question is simple:

Is that dangerous?

Don't get me wrong. I'm all for remembering the day but it's the "understanding causes" that raises my eyebrows. It can be a mixed bag. People drawing the line back to Reagan and the Iran Contra (or just weapon dealing in general), or the failures in Afghanistan (aka Charlie Wilson's War), American "freedoms", Western vs Eastern views or Islam itself?

I have a hard time any class will cover the subject evenhandedly. Or even attempt to. Obviously, I haven't seen the curriculum but "Islam itself" might get more play than weapons dealing. Or the like.

Thoughts?
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Old 09-11-2010, 03:53 PM   #2
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We should probably wait for Obama and Sebelius to tell us what to say. Until then sit tight and don't teach anything.
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Old 09-11-2010, 03:56 PM   #3
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I think you nailed it. The nation is still split between different theories in terms of what caused it. This isn't exactly WWII. It's much more elusive.

This is the kind of subject that should be saved for a college class and not public school, where students aren't taught how to think, how to question, and how to look at an issue like 9/11 and understand why terrorism exists, why the US ignored so many of the warning signs, and why it's still a hot issue today.
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Old 09-11-2010, 04:21 PM   #4
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They should be taught about it as they are taught WWII, Vietnam, the 60s, the American Revolution.
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Old 09-11-2010, 05:34 PM   #5
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They should be taught about it as they are taught WWII, Vietnam, the 60s, the American Revolution.
If their education on those subjects was anything like my education on those subjects in high school, that doesn't bode very well.
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Old 09-11-2010, 05:37 PM   #6
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Old 09-11-2010, 05:45 PM   #7
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Bottom line ... teach your kids what you want them to know on topics like 911. The school version will be "light" and "politically correct".

My 8 year old asked me about it today - he knew that "bad guys attacked the twin towers". So, we talked about it, but it's difficult because of the fact that we live in a diverse area and he has friends that are muslim - nice families. So, there's a thin line and I hope we're doing it right.
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Old 09-11-2010, 05:50 PM   #8
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It should only be a topic if all viewpoints, ideas, and thoughts will be implemented and welcome.

So basically I think it comes down to the teacher.

I had an awesome history teacher...we talked about all kinds of stuff from JFK's murder to Roswell to Vietnam and the Gulf of Tonkin, etc. and he was open and will to let anyone voice what they thought and then we'd debate or discuss it.
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Old 09-11-2010, 05:57 PM   #9
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Old 09-11-2010, 06:03 PM   #10
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I think you nailed it. The nation is still split between different theories in terms of what caused it. This isn't exactly WWII. It's much more elusive.

This is the kind of subject that should be saved for a college class and not public school, where students aren't taught how to think, how to question, and how to look at an issue like 9/11 and understand why terrorism exists, why the US ignored so many of the warning signs, and why it's still a hot issue today.
I hear what you are saying but...you can't teach American history in HS and just skip it.
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Bottom line ... teach your kids what you want them to know on topics like 911. The school version will be "light" and "politically correct".

My 8 year old asked me about it today - he knew that "bad guys attacked the twin towers". So, we talked about it, but it's difficult because of the fact that we live in a diverse area and he has friends that are muslim - nice families. So, there's a thin line and I hope we're doing it right.
My kid's preschool were wrapped up discussing Clinton being "bad" because he "kissed a girl."

My daughter has now read The Thousand Year War as part of a course in Mid East studies. She understands why 9/11 happened. I don't need no stinkin' PC public school to tell her anything.
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