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Old 10-10-2010, 08:41 PM  
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Disappointed in McCluster

Bla bla bla, he's a playmaker, he has two touchdowns already, whatever.

He has seven catches for 93 yards. 1/3 of that yardage came on one play. At least two of those are screen passes I believe.

That ****ing sucks.

This guy needs to be a threat as a WIDE RECEIVER. He hasnt made a single play down the field. I'm not even talking 20 yards. How about 10? How about coming off the line, putting your foot in the ground, getting open and giving Cassel a target?

I'm not willing to accept the idea that Cassel is so god awful he makes all our wide receivers look terrible.

McCluster hasn't done shit yet. And he was utter garbage in Indy.

Don't buy any of his ****ing t-shirts.
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Old 10-10-2010, 10:51 PM   #136
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Feel free to ignore the other QB mentioned.
What QB did we pass on in 2010?
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Old 10-10-2010, 10:53 PM   #137
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What QB did we pass on in 2010?
I'm pretty sure I said back-to-back drafts.

Not sure why I'm bothering.
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Old 10-10-2010, 10:53 PM   #138
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Then play the ****ing kid, because the goddamn sacred cow isn't getting the job done.

You can't give games away in this league.

Today, they gave one away.
Like I said they don't want to manufacture a QB controversy. You go down that road you might as well throw the towel in.
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Old 10-10-2010, 10:55 PM   #139
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Like I said they don't want to manufacture a QB controversy. You go down that road you might as well throw the towel in.
As opposed to giving games away this way?

What's going to cause a bigger problem in the locker room?

Everyone knowing that the QB is the weak link, yet nothing is done, or the backup is brought in hopes he provides a spark to a shitty offense?
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Old 10-10-2010, 10:58 PM   #140
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I'm pretty sure I said back-to-back drafts.

Not sure why I'm bothering.
Asked and answered. Multiple times.

I'm trying to figure out why you're trying to squeeze Clausen into even remotely the same category as Sanchez. 2010 doesn't belong in the same conversation. They passed on QBs because there weren't any in free agency or the draft in KC's spots that looked like franchise QBs. The only guy I wish we would have made a play for, at this point, is McNabb.
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Old 10-10-2010, 10:59 PM   #141
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If Cassel continues to play shitty, I'm betting Haley replaces Cassel.

I don't see any reason why they'd be so stubborn as to **** the team out of wins.

Belichick & Pioli had no problem replacing and sticking with Bledsoe after Brady performed well in 2001 and after the Super Bowl win, Bledsoe was traded.

The only difference being that I don't think Cassel's worth a draft choice to anyone.
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Old 10-10-2010, 11:00 PM   #142
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If Cassel continues to play shitty, I'm betting Haley replaces Cassel.

I don't see any reason why they'd be so stubborn as to **** the team out of wins.

Belichick & Pioli had no problem replacing Bledsoe after Brady performed well in 2001 and after the Super Bowl win, Bledsoe was traded.
The thing is, wasn't Bledsoe got hurt in order to pave the way for Brady?

Edited: Yep. Was KO'ed by Mo Lewis.
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Old 10-10-2010, 11:00 PM   #143
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If Cassel continues to play shitty, I'm betting Haley replaces Cassel.
It would be pretty exciting to see Croyle playing surrounded by talent for once.
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Old 10-10-2010, 11:01 PM   #144
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As opposed to giving games away this way?

What's going to cause a bigger problem in the locker room?

Everyone knowing that the QB is the weak link, yet nothing is done, or the backup is brought in hopes he provides a spark to a shitty offense?
OTW the fan in me would like Croyle to get a shot. But it is unrealistic at this point, being 3-1 with a 2 game lead in the ACFW to change QB's.
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Old 10-10-2010, 11:01 PM   #145
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The thing is, wasn't Bledsoe got hurt in order to pave the way for Brady?
Yes but once healthy, they stayed with Brady.

I just can't imagine Haley, Weis, Crennel and Pioli saying "Ah well, we're paying him, might as well play him, even though we'll likely lose".

I just cannot see that scenario playing itself out.
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Old 10-10-2010, 11:03 PM   #146
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It would be pretty exciting to see Croyle playing surrounded by talent for once.
Yes, it would be nice to see Croyle prepare as the first team QB under Weis for a number of weeks behind a good offensive line that features multiple talented running backs and a very good receiver in Moeaki.

I'd prefer they both be allowed to play themselves out of town. Cassel's already done that, IMO.

Now it's Brodie's turn.
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Yes but once healthy, they stayed with Brady.

I just can't imagine Haley, Weis, Crennel and Pioli saying "Ah well, we're paying him, might as well play him, even though we'll likely lose".

I just cannot see that scenario playing itself out.
I don't know man, Haley and Weis, I could see. But Pioli? The guy who brought him here with a $60 million contract? I have my doubts.
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OTW the fan in me would like Croyle to get a shot. But it is unrealistic at this point, being 3-1 with a 2 game lead in the ACFW to change QB's.
No, it's not unrealistic, considering that we got shutout offensively in 2 out of 4 games, against medicore defenses.

That's not going to cut it.
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If Cassel continues to play shitty, I'm betting Haley replaces Cassel.

I don't see any reason why they'd be so stubborn as to **** the team out of wins.

Belichick & Pioli had no problem replacing and sticking with Bledsoe after Brady performed well in 2001 and after the Super Bowl win, Bledsoe was traded.

The only difference being that I don't think Cassel's worth a draft choice to anyone.
As coach pointed out Bledsoe got hurt. We in essence would be doing what the Eagles and Raiders are doing. And history bears out that way is not very successful.

I have no doubt once the season ends Cassel is gone or a backup if he continues to play this way.
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Bla bla bla, he's a playmaker, he has two touchdowns already, whatever.

He has seven catches for 93 yards. 1/3 of that yardage came on one play. At least two of those are screen passes I believe.

That ****ing sucks.

This guy needs to be a threat as a WIDE RECEIVER. He hasnt made a single play down the field. I'm not even talking 20 yards. How about 10? How about coming off the line, putting your foot in the ground, getting open and giving Cassel a target?

I'm not willing to accept the idea that Cassel is so god awful he makes all our wide receivers look terrible.

McCluster hasn't done shit yet. And he was utter garbage in Indy.

Don't buy any of his ****ing t-shirts.
First of all, haven't read anything, just answering the OP.

Second, you're closing line is comedy gold for me. Love it.

Third. I think a lot of blame should be laid at the feet of two guys who are not Dexter McCluster.

Matt Cassel, for failing to get the ball to ANYONE not named Moeaki. Which actually contests my anti Cassel point. Why on earth can Moeaki not only get open consistently, but also catch a Cassel ball, but nobody else can? I mean, I'm an Iowa guy, so I know the guy is great. Mayock knows nothing when he says Hes not a great blocker, (but) hes got an edge to him and will block. Iowa fans, many on this very board know that Moeaki was without a doubt the best TE in this draft. All around a DAMNED good blocker and a good option in the passing game. Coming up with big plays at big moments. Ferentz didn't say he's the best TE he's ever coached for nothing(better than Dallas Clark).

Also, Weis, who I think calls a SHIT game. Sure, he draws up some genius plays, but sucks when calling them. Too many JC draws on 3rd and long getting tackled before he even has the ball for my liking. Weis does not gameplan as well as RAC. Needs to get something out of Cassel, period.

All that and the off topic said. I too am disappoint in McCluster. He needs to get open, he needs to catch the ball, and he needs to be explosive. Period.

That said, why hasn't Dex gone deep? He has the speed. I still want to see them bring in JC in the backfield, shift him out and send he and Dex deep, with Bowe and Chambers staying short to intermediate. We can't have a deep game if we don't try to create one.
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