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Old 11-02-2010, 10:55 AM  
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GenY sucks in the workplace. Wow...who saw that coming?

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From tattoos to temperment, younger workers are missing the mark at exhibiting professional behavior in the office, a study finds. Entry-level salaries may be attractive to the bottom line, but a sense of entitlement and a deficient work ethic are leaving a bad taste in the mouths of hiring managers and upper management.

Technology workers concerned about younger people taking their jobs should listen up: GenY may be a generation raised on the Internet, but their communication skills, work ethic and overall professionalism in the workplace need some serious attention.

Recent college graduates are not living up to expectations of what it means to be professional on the job, according to research from York College’s Center for Professional Excellence, which polled 520 hiring managers, human resources leaders and business executives.

More than 88 percent of those surveyed said professionalism is related to the person not the position they are in. Nearly 40 percent found GenY to have poor grammar skills; Almost 30 percent found GenY to have a poor attitude, with 27 percent reporting these workers are “disrespectful and inconsiderate.” In terms of GenY’s IT habits, almost 40 percent found an increase in incidents involving IT etiquette, including the accessing of unauthorized company information.

“HR pros and business leaders identified five primary characteristics of the professional they are looking to hire,” David Polk, president of the Polk-Lepson Research Group, which conducted the survey, said in a statement. “The research also found that a lot of college graduates nationally are not measuring up well in these areas.”

If you are wondering what exactly defines a “professional,” here are the characteristics executives and managers rated as lacking in GenY workers, according to the York College research:

- motivation to see a task to its completion;
- overall interaction skills, including courtesy and respect when interacting;
- listening and communication skills;
- appearance; and
- self-confidence and awareness.

More than a third of those polled found recent graduates’ professionalism to have decreased over the last five years, but more than half found no change in professionalism over the same period. Of those who cited a decrease in professionalism, 61 percent found GenY to have a strong sense of entitlement and a lack of work ethic.

“Business leaders complained that many recent college graduates have a hard time accepting personal responsibility for their decisions or acting independently,” according to the report. “Managers also said graduates seem to not have a clear sense of direction or purpose in the office.”
Let's see... You coddle an entire generation of children and adjust EVERYTHING to their "different learning style", and it's a shock that once they leave that artificial environment, they don't play well with others?
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Old 03-08-2013, 04:20 PM   #136
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We need to maximize our competitiveness with all foreign producers.
Why don't we just trick them into doing things our way?

Not trying to be a wiseguy, but I thought you had some examples in mind regarding foreign producers that have the better approach.
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Old 03-08-2013, 04:26 PM   #137
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I'm Gen X/Y cusp, so I'm not in Gen Y per se.

But wow, can't believe the entitled BS in here. As if other generations are knocking it out of the park right now.
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Old 03-08-2013, 04:38 PM   #138
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My company hires the Gen X/Y/Z... or whatever. There are some really bright people out there. It doesn't matter whether they're in their 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s or 70s. That being said, our HR department goes through hundreds of resumes to find a candidate that qualifies for an interview. That part is really sad.
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Old 03-08-2013, 04:56 PM   #139
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They way to tell the tale will be when you are at retirement age to see just how poorly you treat those people you now call your own.

As it is I have little respect for some of the younger generation. In my profession the age spread is from about 28 to 69. The older guys have set methods for engineering based on their years in the field. The younger guys tend to try shortcuts, not based on experience but based on what they learned in a classroom rather than what they have experienced in the field. Some of them have actually seen reality vs classroom. Some have not.

When I interview a person that is going to join the team I lean more on their desire to learn to apply their skills in the field rather than to argue what the instructors/professors taught them in college.

It sounds like you feel the older generation has no hope for the future, in my opinion the older generation are teaching the younger generation as we go.

Just my observation from my little corner of the world.
My experience is the opposite. Reliance on what you learn in the field is often the same as stubbornly clinging to what's been done in the past. It's why most new companies are a million years behind on digital marketing and social media. And trust me, it's not just because older generations don't understand. It's because they refuse to. They would rather spend $5M on price cuts or more commission then on investing on new ideas.

I'm old enough to have matured beyond being a douche bag in the workplace. But I recognize that I was in fact a douche and am glad I grew up past that. I'm also young enough to know how damn frustrating it is to deal with people who refuse to change. The best managers I have are ones who coach, but also listen to new ideas. In my experience, it is typically managers from 35-45 who are far more agile in that regard. And I don't think that is based on experience. In my schooling, the newer wave of graduates are taught to work in teams and are taught leadership. And frankly, it shows. I think there are way too many older leaders who are horrendous managers, and there are younger, more inexperienced managers who may have less technical skills, but get shit done because they know how to manage other people.

This thread is a classic case-in-point. I've managed young people. They require a lot of coaching and work. But if one of them fails under me, I blame myself for hiring them or not being able to mold them. In too many cases, I've seen entitlement the other way around. I've seen entitled veterans shoot down great ideas because it doesn't fit the conservative lens they look through. I've seen entitled managers brush aside any of their subordinates if they don't think like them, instead of flexing to manage them in a style that fits them.
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Old 03-08-2013, 05:05 PM   #140
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Why don't we just trick them into doing things our way?

Not trying to be a wiseguy, but I thought you had some examples in mind regarding foreign producers that have the better approach.
Because we want to maintain the high standard of living that our working class now enjoys. We need to squeeze out every bit of productivity we can to compete with the low labor costs of the rest of the world.
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Old 03-08-2013, 05:18 PM   #141
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This is a pretty great thread. It's pretty much all the old farts on here saying, "Gen Y is full of a bunch of no good talentless braindead morons who wouldn't know a fair day's work if it bit them on the nose!" The hilarious part is they don't look at history and see that the older generation before THEM said the exact same thing when they were young.
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Old 03-08-2013, 05:24 PM   #142
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This is a pretty great thread. It's pretty much all the old farts on here saying, "Gen Y is full of a bunch of no good talentless braindead morons who wouldn't know a fair day's work if it bit them on the nose!" The hilarious part is they don't look at history and see that the older generation before THEM said the exact same thing when they were young.
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Old 03-08-2013, 05:25 PM   #143
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I can agree with this.

But I think the past 2 generations before genY have completely ****ed this nation to no return.
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Old 03-08-2013, 05:48 PM   #144
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I can agree with this.

But I think the past 2 generations before genY have completely ****ed this nation to no return.
Don't give the so-called Greatest Generation a pass. They created the fiscal timebomb by kick starting the entitlement state.
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Don't give the so-called Greatest Generation a pass. They created the fiscal timebomb by kick starting the entitlement state.
They believed everything they were told by their govt without questioning anything. They loved FDR.
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