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Old 11-16-2010, 02:36 PM  
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Old 11-22-2010, 10:37 PM   #211
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Knight made a great comment about KSU, something along the line of....

KSU fouling from start to finish...if you can hit your free throws against them, you are never out of the game.
That's really a dumbass comment by Knight. When the Cat's start hitting their FT's, and they will, that won't make near as much as a difference. We lead the Nation in FT attempts last season, and I suspect we'll be up there again this season.
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Old 11-23-2010, 02:00 AM   #212
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That's really a dumbass comment by Knight. When the Cat's start hitting their FT's, and they will, that won't make near as much as a difference. We lead the Nation in FT attempts last season, and I suspect we'll be up there again this season.
I'm not as optomistic as you about starting to hit FTs. Obviously they all can physically make one, but for whatever reason can't hit them at a decent clip. I hope someone has the answer because I think it's gunna be a problem, especially late in the year.

I'm sure we'll start taking more FTs as the season goes on, especially as the schedule lightens up in Dec., but it wouldn't surprise me to see our percentage be pretty mediocre/bad all year.
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Old 11-23-2010, 04:45 AM   #213
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:31 AM   #214
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Interesting watching KSU and Dook in person. Not that you guys care but here is a hawk fan review of the game.

I think this team looks very very good. Defensively KSU is outstanding. They defend hard all the time. If they don't, they get to sit by the large angry man. This is the backbone of the team and what it will rely on to win. Maybe the best part of their game is their efficiency in turning good defense into transition.

Offensively, when they run it looks really good. Unfortunately they don't use it enough. They keep forcing stuff, but that has been their mantra for years, but candidly, the offense looks as good as it ever has. Everybody is scoring, they're getting it in low. Offense will be OK if they go to it when they bog down like they do.

Pullen is the man, as expected. Kelley will be good when he gets up to speed. That white kid (I didn't get a program and I can't remember his name, you know who I'm talking about) is a really nice player. Everybody has hustle to spare and lots of talent on the floor all the time. They'll be tough to beat. Their weakness is fouls, forcing, and relying on athletic ability to make up for mistakes.

Duke is pretty much the opposite. They are all about discipline and execution. KSU looked like one hell of a lot better than Duke did, but we'll see how they fare against each other. Pullen should get his, and KSU should have a major advantage inside and I think I heard their PG (Irvin I think) is a frosh. Ought to be a good game but I really think KSU wins unless the refs are on the Duke payroll (they were shitterrible tonight).
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:41 AM   #215
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I just wonder what we will do at the 3 as far as defensive match ups go.
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:43 AM   #216
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Interesting watching KSU and Dook in person. Not that you guys care but here is a hawk fan review of the game.

I think this team looks very very good. Defensively KSU is outstanding. They defend hard all the time. If they don't, they get to sit by the large angry man. This is the backbone of the team and what it will rely on to win. Maybe the best part of their game is their efficiency in turning good defense into transition.

Offensively, when they run it looks really good. Unfortunately they don't use it enough. They keep forcing stuff, but that has been their mantra for years, but candidly, the offense looks as good as it ever has. Everybody is scoring, they're getting it in low. Offense will be OK if they go to it when they bog down like they do.

Pullen is the man, as expected. Kelley will be good when he gets up to speed. That white kid (I didn't get a program and I can't remember his name, you know who I'm talking about) is a really nice player. Everybody has hustle to spare and lots of talent on the floor all the time. They'll be tough to beat. Their weakness is fouls, forcing, and relying on athletic ability to make up for mistakes.

Duke is pretty much the opposite. They are all about discipline and execution. KSU looked like one hell of a lot better than Duke did, but we'll see how they fare against each other. Pullen should get his, and KSU should have a major advantage inside and I think I heard their PG (Irvin I think) is a frosh. Ought to be a good game but I really think KSU wins unless the refs are on the Duke payroll (they were shitterrible tonight).
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I saw it quite differently. KSU will rely on Pullen/Sprads/Gruds and the three ball. Until Fredo get some real legs under him the inside game is non existent. I had great seats last night and Frank constantly ran sets for Wally and JAMSAM. But they never got the ball in the proper position. Always a few to far out. Frank was telling them to hold off the defender low and keep that good position. Many times, the entry angle was poor also.

The whole "Duke and the refs" statement is ridiculous from KU fans. Duke plays great defense. They play hard and it's easy to see why they are everybody's favorite to make it back to the FF. They have great guards and great big men who can flash outside and drop the 3.

And if you think KSU has an inside advantage, I'd like to know where you see the advantage.
Plumlee and Singler have more inside game in their pinky than anybody that KSU has. Duke should be a heavy favorite. And Jake may get his but as of now his scoring will be difficult as he is also the PG. He has to make the team go and carry the load. Difficult task. Maybe Spradling will hit a few again to take the pressure off.
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:57 AM   #217
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Duke is favored by 6. Would LOVE to see the guys pull this one off.
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Old 11-23-2010, 09:00 AM   #218
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Greatest line of the night:

Early in the first half, Sacre (00), the big man for Zaga was at the line for a 1 and 1. Now Sacre is a rather chiseled fellow with chiseled features. Sometimes a calm comes over the arena right before a FT and this was one of those moments. The ref hands Sacre the ball and he hold it to his hip. Bounces it a couple of time and then from under the basket this voice bellows out:

HEY AVATAR !


The entire section behind under the basket began laughing and you could hear it clearly all the way behind the Cats bench.

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Old 11-23-2010, 09:32 AM   #220
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Duke -6 is the line. Thoughts?

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Old 11-23-2010, 09:36 AM   #221
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Old 11-23-2010, 09:36 AM   #222
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I hate the "live and die by the three." That being said, if we consistently make shots from downtown, then live away, Cats.

I really think we have the ability to take the lead a few times, and hold it for some stretches. Especially if we drain that aforementioned three ball. Good thing is we've got 5 guys who can hit, and only 2-3 need to be hot for us to get those numbers.

I am worried about our ability to maintain a lead and stay focused for the entire game. Can we finish? I sure hope so.
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Old 11-23-2010, 09:44 AM   #223
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I hate the "live and die by the three." That being said, if we consistently make shots from downtown, then live away, Cats.

I really think we have the ability to take the lead a few times, and hold it for some stretches. Especially if we drain that aforementioned three ball. Good thing is we've got 5 guys who can hit, and only 2-3 need to be hot for us to get those numbers.

I am worried about our ability to maintain a lead and stay focused for the entire game. Can we finish? I sure hope so.
With the way we play (with our balls on fire), I don't think discipline is EVER going to be a hallmark of any Frank Martin coached team. He talks a lot about it, but really, have we ever been that disciplined in the 3+ yrs he's be HC at KSU? What we are is a high energy, pressure D, aggressive rebounding, and hope to get a second shot on the boards team. The highs will be high, and the lows will be head scratching. I do believe though, that this is probably the best group of shooting guards we've had since Frank's been here. So, it doesn't surprise me that we are launching, what appears to be, an inordinate amount of 3's.
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