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Old 01-08-2011, 12:09 PM  
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Arizona congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords shot at public event

Giffords shot at meet n greet in front of a tucson safeway. Early reports 12 wounded. 4 confirmed dead, early reports say giffords was shot in the head. 3 of her staff are also wounded. No report from the hospital on giffords.
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Old 01-13-2011, 10:15 PM   #871
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It's his go-to attack. Probably because he's a shifty Iranian with tendencies toward terrorism.
the only thing you got right is that he might be iranian. everyone else is a racist/bigot.
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Old 01-14-2011, 12:43 AM   #872
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the only thing you got right is that he might be iranian. everyone else is a racist/bigot.
self-awareness is a virtue grasshopper...
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Old 01-14-2011, 05:30 AM   #873
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self-awareness is a virtue grasshopper...
Start a new thread to discuss this issue. This thread isn't the place.
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:23 AM   #874
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Civilty is one thing (I don't much mind people being uncivil), but anti-government & anti-liberal hate speech on the airways may be dangerous. You know, the stuff that paints government & liberals as actual enemies of America. Since the Vietnam War days, its been the right-wingers doing all the killing - none from the lefties. None.


Just last year Beck put the liberal Tides Foundation on the map when he declared it an enemy of America, then a Beck follower drove up to SF to kill liberals. He died in a shootout with police before he could kill them (did shoot some cops).



2009 - Ultra-rightie Mahon sent a mail bomb to the diversity office in Scottsdale.
2009 - The executive director of the Minutemen killed a man & his 9-year old daughter to steal money to fund the group.
2009 - Rightwinger Von Brunn tried to kidnap members of the Federal Reserve Board & then killed a guard at the Holocaust Musem.
2009 - Christian Rightie Roeder assassinated Dr. Tiller in a church.
2009 - Rightie Cartwright was so upset that Obama was elected that he killed two Sheriff's deputies in Florida.

2009 - The day after Obama's inauguration, ultra-rightie Keith Luke shoots a buncha blacks & kills two in Mass.
2008 - Rightie Brittingham gets arrested for armed robbery & cops find plans to kill Obama in his possession.
2008 - Two rightwingers (Cowart & Schlesselman) are arrested for plotting to assasinate Obama, kill 88 blacks & behead 14 others.
2008 - Six Pennsylvania militiamen are arrested with bombs & weapons for planning to shoot blacks from a rooftop in Pitt & declaring civil war if Obama got elected.
There's like 30 other incidents going back to year 2000, but (not counting McVay's 168 victims) most of the actual right-wing killings took place in Obama time.



I noticed you didn't even mention the number of babies that have been aborted since Vietnam. If you are keeping score, then my money is on the uncivil killings by the leftist radicals.

Obama wants civility. Then he should be the lead dog and set the standard. With out question he has failed and so have his lapdogs in the media.

The tragic events in Arizona had nothing to do with Conservative politicians, conservative talk radio or Fox news. But within an hour or so the New York Times writer Paul Krugman and the AP writers were blaming Sarah Palin and the right. That continues this morning. The civility Obama is calling for to no one surprise has fallin on deaf ears by the lap dogs in the media.
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:26 AM   #875
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Obama wants civility. Then he should be the lead dog and set the standard. With out question he has failed and so have his lapdogs in the media.
How has Obama failed at being civil?
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:27 AM   #876
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You realize Nidal Hassan, Faisal Shahzad, etc. are Right Wingers of other countries, don't you RC?
You realize that this strand of the thread isn't about how Americans fit into foreign political systems, don't you Frankie?
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:27 AM   #877
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They always say the truth is somewhere in the middle..I find these statements interesting and telling...it's interesting because liberals were enemies of America.. ayers, his wife, and jeff jones....funny how their names are STILL relevant forty years later....

...and as far as killing...the left has killed the American family, the American Education System, and have exploited African Americans to the point they aren't going to be able to sustain themselves in the future as a RACE in America....and you've pretty much killed the American dream for future generations with unsustainable debt that has reached even state levels...the liberals anything goes, create chaos and an enemy so they can pretend to save the day with politcal correctness ...all in some psuedo effort to make everyone feel good about themselves at the expense of everyone else...and dividing us in the process..creating categories for everyone, instead of just being one..

The greedy, over indulgent, out of your means self serving entitlement lifestyle is doing and has been doing way much more damage than the psychos you listed could ever even dream of...that lifestyle is despised around the globe and has brought terrorists to our shore...for the first time ever...meanwhile, you try to label tea partiers as the enemy, when the generation that started it all is now in power, and trying to paint people who disagree with them as anti government, when that's who they've always been...they just got smart enough to figure out that you had to join them to beat them...what did van jones say? top down, bottom up, inside out?

It's nothing short of shameful...please don't insult us with your none crap. it's dishonest and corrupt.

Well thought out and well said.
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How has Obama failed at being civil?
You don't comprehand very well.
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How has Obama failed at being civil?
Several examples have been posted in this thread already. If Sarah Palin has fallen short of being civil in her political activities then I think it's fair to say that Obama's characterizations of his political opponents as "enemies" and his encouragement to his supporters to "bring a gun" to the fight fall short as well.
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You don't comprehand very well.
Oh? I thought you were saying Obama failed at civility.
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Several examples have been posted in this thread already. If Sarah Palin has fallen short of being civil in her political activities then I think it's fair to say that Obama's characterizations of his political opponents as "enemies" and his encouragement to his supporters to "bring a gun" to the fight fall short as well.
Well, I guess that would mean Chief Henry sees Palin as falling short?
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Well, I guess that would mean Chief Henry sees Palin as falling short?
I don't know that it does. And if it does, I don't know that he finds it objectionable. And if he does, I don't know that he blames her for fighting fire with fire.
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I don't know that it does. And if it does, I don't know that he finds it objectionable. And if he does, I don't know that he blames her for fighting fire with fire.
If Palin is accused of being uncivil, then Obama could be accused of being uncivil.

Unless legitimacy is completely disregarded, the right's view cannot be that Palin's map was a metaphor, but Obama actually wanted guns brought.

Michelle Bachmann's quote was much more damning:

BACHMANN: And really now in Washington, Im a foreign correspondent in enemy lines. And I try to keep everyone back here in Minnesota know exactly the nefarious activities that are taking place in Washington. [...]

I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax because we need to fight back. Thomas Jefferson told us, having a revolution every now and then is a good thing, and the people we the people are going to have to fight back hard if were not going to lose our country. And I think this has the potential of changing the dynamic of freedom forever in the United States.
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:45 AM   #884
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Well, I guess that would mean Chief Henry sees Palin as falling short?
doesn't matter, she isn't the one that is being a hypocrite here...
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doesn't matter, she isn't the one that is being a hypocrite here...
Obama is?
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