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Old 01-09-2011, 01:42 PM  
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Cassel did, does, and will always suck

I had backed off on my Cassel hate in the second half of the season because he actually started to play with a modicum of competence. But I never stopped being wary of him, because he was playing well against shitty, shitty ****ing teams.

But today is proof positive that Cassel is NOT the answer. He will NOT be a franchise quarterback. He simply doesn't have the ability or the intelligence that is required. He never really progressed this season; he just managed to not shit himself against the NFC West.

Can we all just agree that he's not the answer? Please?
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:17 PM   #256
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Whats that got to do with MC and the O giving the ball away 5 times?
NFL throws vs non nfl throws...
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:17 PM   #257
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I've watched a lot of Missouri football this year, and besides a handful of games, I fail to see what you obviously do in Blane Gabbert.
I see an extremely tough player with ideal physical characteristics, including a golden arm.

And he's intelligent, and his teammates love him.

He is simply a great, great NFL prospect. Anyone who likes Mallett as a prospect cannot fail to like Gabbert more.
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:17 PM   #258
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after today and last week, im done with cassel. he fooled most of us with his play the 2nd half of the season, but its clear he sucks against above average defenses.
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:18 PM   #259
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Did you miss the 440 or so yards he put up before that mistake?
More of Hamas endorsing the pick... could be a good NFL QB, but Hamas gave him the kiss of death...
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:18 PM   #260
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I'd trade our first three picks for Gabbert, because until we get a QB, it's not going to matter who we draft.
I pretty much agree, replacing "Gabbert" with "drafting a QB".

I'm tired of trying to build a roster with 21 pro-bowlers to prop up our bad QB retreads.
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:18 PM   #261
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They were definitely doubling Bowe a lot, but not every play. There were numerous plays where WRs were open. But Matt Cassel today did not know the difference between NFL-open and wide open. Matt Cassel flat-out refused to make an NFL throw, he refused to even attempt a difficult pass. Except for that time he forced the ball in front of Moeaki right to a defender.

Flacco made tight, NFL throws to extend drives. Cassel regressed to the Cassel of old -- the one who holds onto the ball way too long and doesn't trust himself.
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:18 PM   #262
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I see an extremely tough player with ideal physical characteristics, including a golden arm.

And he's intelligent, and his teammates love him.

He is simply a great, great NFL prospect. Anyone who likes Mallett as a prospect cannot fail to like Gabbert more.
I concur the best overall QB prospect in the draft
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:20 PM   #263
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I see an extremely tough player with ideal physical characteristics, including a golden arm.

And he's intelligent, and his teammates love him.

He is simply a great, great NFL prospect. Anyone who likes Mallett as a prospect cannot fail to like Gabbert more.
They could stay where they are in the draft, wait 2 rounds and still pick up Gabbert.
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:20 PM   #264
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You can quote stats all day long. I watched the games. Yes, he didn't turn the ball over. Yes he had a high rating (which carries very little weight IMO). He plays exactly the type of game that makes stats columns look shiny, but he'll never be the guy that saves the game.
Yes... All of those statistics are lying and don't give you a true idea of what he accomplished this year. Forget the fact that they're official performance records.

The fact that you watch the games doesn't mean much as you'll demonstrate with your next comment.

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You want Trent Dilfer?
Cassel is a 1:1 with Dilfer? Who NEVER in his career threw 27 TD in one season? Who NEVER in his career had a 3:1 TD-to-INT ratio? Who NEVER had a QB Rating higher than 82 in ANY year he threw more than 200 passes?

Are you kidding?

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Guys like Manning and Brady make Pierre Garcon and Danny Woodhead household names, while guys like Matt Cassel make Dwayne Bowe disappear.
Garcon isn't a household name. Neither is Woodhead.
Great stories, but household names? Give me a break.

Manning and Brady will go down as two of the best QB's of all-time.
FEW QB's EVER measure up to that standard. The fact that Cassel doesn't hardly means he shouldn't be our starting QB.
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:20 PM   #265
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Yes, when you frame your argument to eliminate everything that goes against you and emphasize everything that favors you, your argument looks better. This is not a shock. Do you think other QBs don't put up numbers against lesser teams? The Colts don't sit Manning when the 2 win teams come to town, after all.
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As for your "potential" argument, that's a load of bullshit, as I've already demonstrated with the first games of Manning and Flacco. Cassel may, or may not, be able to get it done in the playoffs, but attempting to be definitive about that after one playoff game is about as stupid as it gets.
How many shitty playoff games are you willing to sit through before you can be "definitive" about Cassel? He's not a rookie, and he's not getting any younger. Manning and Flacco were both much younger in their first playoff games and I'd be willing to wager they both showed more, too.

If you're into mediocre seasons and embarrassing playoff losses, I guess you have every right to continue to support Cassel. But people who want this team to win a Super Bowl have seen more than enough. Every year he stays at QB is another year that could have been used to develop a younger, smarter, more talented QB wasted.
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:20 PM   #266
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I have never really thought much about Gabbert, but he might end up being a decent NFL QB.
I fully expect him to be better in the NFL than he was for Mizzou. He's got all the tools...

And despite what some would say, he was pretty damned great for Mizzou.
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Hamas and I have been endlessly pimping Gabbert since early in '09. This will be ridiculous to many, but I like Gabbert's potential and upside far more than Luck's.
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They could stay where they are in the draft, wait 2 rounds and still pick up Gabbert.
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I believe that we will take a quarterback in the later rounds for a back up replacement.
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They could stay where they are in the draft, wait 2 rounds and still pick up Gabbert.
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