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Old 01-09-2011, 01:42 PM  
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Cassel did, does, and will always suck

I had backed off on my Cassel hate in the second half of the season because he actually started to play with a modicum of competence. But I never stopped being wary of him, because he was playing well against shitty, shitty ****ing teams.

But today is proof positive that Cassel is NOT the answer. He will NOT be a franchise quarterback. He simply doesn't have the ability or the intelligence that is required. He never really progressed this season; he just managed to not shit himself against the NFC West.

Can we all just agree that he's not the answer? Please?
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:30 PM   #286
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How old was Flacco at this point and how much NFL experience did he have? Or is this the "Cassel was essentially a rookie" argument?
You realize that today was Cassel's first playoff game, yes?
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:30 PM   #287
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:33 PM   #288
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I just hope we have four more years to find out how GREAT Cassel really is!/idiot.
Sad fact ROR, there isnt anything we as fans going to do to change the simple fact...


do you actually think they are going to just fold up shop and start over with the QB?

Serious question... Answer it with a logical answer and not from your agenda of hate...
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:33 PM   #289
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You realize that today was Cassel's first playoff game, yes?
Like how Kurt Warner when he won the SB?
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:34 PM   #290
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blah blah blah irrelevant bullshit

You can throw up all the statlines from other years by other quarterbacks you want. None of it changes the fact that MATT CASSEL does not have the ability, the instincts, the intelligence, or the poise to be a Super Bowl quarterback. And if he doesn't have that now, at age 29, after three seasons as a starter, HE IS NOT GOING TO SUDDENLY HAVE IT NEXT YEAR OR THE YEAR AFTER THAT OR THE YEAR AFTER THAT.

This thread is ultimately about pragmatism. We can stick with Cassel and hope he miraculously evolves into Peyton Manning out of ****ing nowhere, OR we can cut our losses, get rid of Cassel and start developing a young QB who has some of those characteristics.
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:34 PM   #291
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Where is Manning right now? Sitting next to you? lol. His WR's got owned too by Jets secondary.


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Manning has great WR's. So now you are acknowledging that even having great WR's isn't going to make a difference. I usually don't single out people like this but you don't seem to have a problem with doing it to others so I don't either.

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Old 01-09-2011, 04:35 PM   #292
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You can throw up all the statlines from other years by other quarterbacks you want. None of it changes the fact that MATT CASSEL does not have the ability, the instincts, the intelligence, or the poise to be a Super Bowl quarterback. And if he doesn't have that now, at age 29, after three seasons as a starter, HE IS NOT GOING TO SUDDENLY HAVE IT NEXT YEAR OR THE YEAR AFTER THAT OR THE YEAR AFTER THAT.

This thread is ultimately about pragmatism. We can stick with Cassel and hope he miraculously evolves into Peyton Manning out of ****ing nowhere, OR we can cut our losses, get rid of Cassel and start developing a young QB who has some of those characteristics.
What do you think Pioli and Haley is going to do?
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:36 PM   #293
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You realize that today was Cassel's first playoff game, yes?
This would be a sensible thing to say if Cassel were a 22-year-old rookie.
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:36 PM   #294
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Maybe the Chiefs can trade Chris Chambers to the Bears for a #1, Cassel to the Vikings for a #1, Croyle to the Bills for a #1, then they can take their 4 #1's and draft 4 defensive linemen.
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:36 PM   #295
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Sad fact ROR, there isnt anything we as fans going to do to change the simple fact...


do you actually think they are going to just fold up shop and start over with the QB?

Serious question... Answer it with a logical answer and not from your agenda of hate...
We will know fairly shortly because they owe him a big roster bonus.

My gut feeling is he is here to stay
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:36 PM   #296
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You realize that today was Cassel's first playoff game, yes?
I know, "he's still developing and learning." So we should treat the (soon) 29-year-old QB, who should be in his prime, the same as a rookie and second-year player.
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:36 PM   #297
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Like how Kurt Warner when he won the SB?
You mean...The Superbowl he won with the #1 Offense in the league, A Top 5 Defense and three Hall of Famers at the skill positions offensively?
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Sad fact ROR, there isnt anything we as fans going to do to change the simple fact...


do you actually think they are going to just fold up shop and start over with the QB?

Serious question... Answer it with a logical answer and not from your agenda of hate...
I would HOPE we would attempt to see reality and cut bait, but I'm a Chiefs fan and I know damned good and well how the QB position in this franchise is handled.

That would be, "shittily", in case you're wondering.
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:37 PM   #299
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Yea, I remember Damon Huard playing good enough at times to win us enough games while Trent was hurt and how every body just loved him. Then his true collors came out as a back up to a back up QB that's how reallity struck & thus we ended up sucking so bad, yet it was never his fault. This is the reallity for Matt Cassel, he is a back up playing in a starters role. Has good games but not exactly what you want for a franchise QB. Then plays like he did today. Good grief!

I tryied to like him, he is a retread QB just like we've had during the Carl Peterless era. Pleaze God let us draft a QBotf.

Next year what are we suppose to expect from Cassel? More excuses, OL, Wrs? I do expect him to play like he gets $63,000,000 for a franchise QB. Don't think that is too much to ask.

Pleaze let us draft a QBotf and let the best guy win the job during preseason. If Cassel is worth it he can prove it.
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Sad fact ROR, there isnt anything we as fans going to do to change the simple fact...


do you actually think they are going to just fold up shop and start over with the QB?

Serious question... Answer it with a logical answer and not from your agenda of hate...
It's hard to do when everyone is emotional.


You are correct, Cassel isn't going anywhere, and we are going to hate it.
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