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Old 01-09-2011, 01:42 PM  
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Cassel did, does, and will always suck

I had backed off on my Cassel hate in the second half of the season because he actually started to play with a modicum of competence. But I never stopped being wary of him, because he was playing well against shitty, shitty ****ing teams.

But today is proof positive that Cassel is NOT the answer. He will NOT be a franchise quarterback. He simply doesn't have the ability or the intelligence that is required. He never really progressed this season; he just managed to not shit himself against the NFC West.

Can we all just agree that he's not the answer? Please?
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Old 11-02-2011, 05:12 PM   #1381
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It's pretty standard to call someone an asshole, dumb****, etc around here.

I don't think it's coincidence or innocent that he chose the word he used on the person he used it on.
You are correct.It absolutely is not a coincidence - I thought he would 'get it' or get a chuckle out of it..I have explained it but here is my words directly to him:

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I apologize if I offended you.You probly wont believe this but I truly meant no RACIAL insult. I live in an area where there are more mexicans than whites and have a ton of mexican friends and 'mojado' is used here as more of a 'class' insult than a race insult among people that 'hang out' together.I'm not sure where you live or if you are lucky enough to live around a place with a lot of Mexicans but it is great to live in Cali where there are tons of different cultures and women / foods etc.I hope you believe me..but understand if you dont as I know there are a lot of stupid racist ****tards everywhere not just CP. I'm not one of them.I have spent a good portion of my life studying other cultures and languages and traveling to other places.I actually thought you would laugh that I used a subtle mexican-on-mexican insult, kind of a bro-sult.Anyhow I might be an argumentative person and enjoy debating but I dont enjoy hurting other people's feelings.If yours are truly hurt, I am sorry.
I gave him positive rep and left those words. I truly meant no racist / racial slur. I meant it as a 'trailer trash' type of insult.....I am sorry that he took it that way..For the other people who have no idea what they are talking about and have to look shit up in wikipedia or some other place, I really don't care...but anyone who actually uses the language (as I do) I care..So PR Capone and Kc native, if you read the above quote and STILL think I am a racist...then theres not much more I can do but say sorry, go ahead and ignore me...I apologize.
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Old 11-02-2011, 05:37 PM   #1382
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Unfortantly for us, Cassel is the only QB to ever do that in the NFL...

Did you watch Flacco's performance the other night in Jacksonville. Seems to me you have because you described him perfectly in this post.
So your amazing insight is . . . what?

Trying to create some equivalence between Cassel and the likes of Montana and Gannon based on the reliance on intermediate routes and less of an emphasis on the long ball is like trying to equate Shaq in his championship years with some scrub center who also can't shoot free throws very well.
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Old 11-02-2011, 05:41 PM   #1383
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So your amazing insight is . . . what?

Trying to create some equivalence between Cassel and the likes of Montana and Gannon based on the reliance on intermediate routes and less of an emphasis on the long ball is like trying to equate Shaq in his championship years with some scrub center who also can't shoot free throws very well.
I couldnt tell if he was talkin about Flacco or Cassel, but i took it as him liking Flacco's play..but maybe Im drunk
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Old 11-02-2011, 06:44 PM   #1384
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..but maybe Im drunk
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Old 11-02-2011, 06:49 PM   #1385
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You are correct.It absolutely is not a coincidence - I thought he would 'get it' or get a chuckle out of it..I have explained it but here is my words directly to him:



I gave him positive rep and left those words. I truly meant no racist / racial slur. I meant it as a 'trailer trash' type of insult.....I am sorry that he took it that way..For the other people who have no idea what they are talking about and have to look shit up in wikipedia or some other place, I really don't care...but anyone who actually uses the language (as I do) I care..So PR Capone and Kc native, if you read the above quote and STILL think I am a racist...then theres not much more I can do but say sorry, go ahead and ignore me...I apologize.
Apology accepted and I can tell now you didn't mean it the way someone like vailpuss would. I replied to your visitor message. If had interactions with you before then I would have got what you meant. But for outsiders to this, if you're familiar with the person you're saying it to, then it is a friendly insult. If you're not it is extremely offensive and derogatory. Just fyi.

Like I said in the visitor message though, cassel still sucks.
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Old 11-02-2011, 06:49 PM   #1386
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Old 11-02-2011, 06:52 PM   #1387
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Apology accepted and I can tell now you didn't mean it the way someone like vailpuss would. I replied to your visitor message. If had interactions with you before then I would have got what you meant. But for outsiders to this, if you're familiar with the person you're saying it to, then it is a friendly insult. If you're not it is extremely offensive and derogatory. Just fyi.

Like I said in the visitor message though, cassel still sucks.
Thanks man....I really appreciate it.. I enjoy a debate/argument as much as the next guy here but to genuinely offend someone is not my thing...I truly thought you would find it funny, but I failed. I shouldve waited till you knew me alot better..I just made a false assumption that everyone on this board is kind of family/close enough to know me........I saw the Spanish in your profile and knew you would 'get' the joke..but unfortunately (and I do not blame you) the world is filled with racists and assholes..and you RIGHTLY thought I was one..I'm glad you can tell from my words that I wasn't coming from that place at all. It shows alot about you to me, Carnal.


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Old 11-02-2011, 06:58 PM   #1388
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I don't know if I'm too late to post about Cassel here, because god knows what the hell this thread has spiraled into (I haven't read it, but based on most gargantuan threads on this site....god only knows what you all are talking about now). Cassel is a smart guy. I think he's bright. He works hard and has the heart/desire to excel. He just often can't see the whole field very well, and he can't make quick successful decisions on a consistent basis. I see wide open receivers all the time get passed up in favor of a checkdown.

As far as his arm, it's not strong. Not the weakest arm I've seen in the league though. His accuracy can be good at times. His mobility is decent. He's about middle of the road. If Kerry Collins and Michael Vick had a baby somehow, it would grow up with the mobility of Matt Cassel, but it would have a better arm.

I would like to know what perception you all would have of Cassel if he was 23 years old. Would you be willing to cut him more slack in hopes that he could improve? A poll has probably been done before asking this very question, and it's totally hypothetical and pointless, but it would interest me.
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He is a tough mother****er too, nails. Played with busted rib, appendix removed....played that 1st season while getting sacked about 4 times a game on average, even though he didnt throw alot....Probably hit every other time he dropped back...

He has guts....but I like your question....I do hear that alot (he's old) so that is an interesting question...if he was 25 even would he get more slack after playing 2.5 seasons...? The answer has to be yes I think....but I'm still willing to give the kid slack so my opnion probably isnt worth shit.
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Old 11-02-2011, 07:05 PM   #1390
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He is a tough mother****er too, nails. Played with busted rib, appendix removed....played that 1st season while getting sacked about 4 times a game on average, even though he didnt throw alot....Probably hit every other time he dropped back...

He has guts....but I like your question....I do hear that alot (he's old) so that is an interesting question...if he was 25 even would he get more slack after playing 2.5 seasons...? The answer has to be yes I think....but I'm still willing to give the kid slack so my opnion probably isnt worth shit.
I'm willing to give him slack only because he's better than the Huard/Croyle/Thigpen/whoever that black guy was that we threw in a few plays when we were shit out of options circus during the Herm era.
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I'm willing to give him slack only because he's better than the Huard/Croyle/Thigpen/whoever that black guy was that we threw in a few plays when we were shit out of options circus during the Herm era.
Pretty much same here..I am willing to give him slack until the day comes where we have a CLEARLY better option that isn't some kind of 47 year old basement dweller's fantasy involving trading a bunch of picks or something.
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Pretty much same here..I am willing to give him slack until the day comes where we have a CLEARLY better option that isn't some kind of 47 year old basement dweller's fantasy involving trading a bunch of picks or something.
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I would like to know what perception you all would have of Cassel if he was 23 years old. Would you be willing to cut him more slack in hopes that he could improve? A poll has probably been done before asking this very question, and it's totally hypothetical and pointless, but it would interest me.
Definitely... I believe time is Cassel's worst enemy. Most of what he lacks are things that can be built into a QB over time, excluding his average arm strength. The same can be said for 28 year old Jackie Battle as well.
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