Off Season Lets Talk Guns

[HonestChieffan]

Been a while since we had a guns n' ammo discussion.


Some of you are AR shooters Im sure. Im looking at a Colt 6920. Will be my first AR. Picked up a Glock this fall and really enjoy shooting it. Any feedback on that weapon?



Anyone else been in a buy/sell/trade mood with hardware?

[frazod]

Originally Posted by trndobrd

Why are you disassembling the thing that far down? The glory of the AK is that you just have to field strip it, rod the barrel, wipe down the major components, at a touch of oil and reassemble until next time. You might also find that because of the piston OS there is a lot less cleaning involved.

edit: BTW, awesome looking AK!

Well, the first thing I did was replace the two piece foregrip with the Galil. I had to break it down substantially to do that. I have no plans to ever do it again.

But the dust cover sucks. My buddy has a Dremel - I may grind down the front a touch so it fits better.

[trndobrd]

Originally Posted by frazod

Well, the first thing I did was replace the two piece foregrip with the Galil. I had to break it down substantially to do that. I have no plans to ever do it again.

But the dust cover sucks. My buddy has a Dremel - I may grind down the front a touch so it fits better.

Disregard. I was thinking of the safety lever, which acts as a dust cover for the chamber like on the M-4. You are talking about the dust cover that goes over the entire receiver.

[Dayze]

so if you're going DI instead of Piston, how much cleaning are we talking about?

are we talking a complete tear down of the upper/bolt carrier group/firing pin, etc?

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[verbaljitsu]

Originally Posted by Dayze

so if you're going DI instead of Piston, how much cleaning are we talking about?

are we talking a complete tear down of the upper/bolt carrier group/firing pin, etc?

I think you need to tear down the bcg every thousand rounds or so to clean up.But that is also about inspecting the parts for wear etc. The rifle should go several thousand rounds reliably. Run it wet! It helps make cleaning easier and improves reliability.

[trndobrd]

Originally Posted by Dayze

so if you're going DI instead of Piston, how much cleaning are we talking about?

are we talking a complete tear down of the upper/bolt carrier group/firing pin, etc?

On an AR? Yep, all of the above, plus the inside of the upper and lower receiver and the star chamber, each and every time. Will also need to pull the buffer every now and again, and clean the trigger group with some pipe cleaners.

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by trndobrd

On an AR? Yep, all of the above, plus the inside of the upper and lower receiver and the star chamber, each and every time. Will also need to pull the buffer every now and again, and clean the trigger group with some pipe cleaners.

yeah, on an AR.

thanks.
Doesn't sound too bad. although, I now see why some don't like running dirty ammo etc. But, I typically clean my pistols after each range visit, and would do the same with the AR (whenver I get to building one).

Does dirty ammo gunk up the internals really bad?

[trndobrd]

Originally Posted by Dayze

yeah, on an AR.

thanks.
Doesn't sound too bad. although, I now see why some don't like running dirty ammo etc. But, I typically clean my pistols after each range visit, and would do the same with the AR (whenver I get to building one).

Does dirty ammo gunk up the internals really bad?

Not sure if you mean dirty exterior, which is pretty much the same for all rifles, or cheap ammo that leaves a lot of residue. I can't say that I've ever shot cheap Russian ammo through an AR, but my guess is that the more crud you force through it, the more carbon and residue will end up in the rifle.

For a real good time, put on a blank adaptor and run a couple hundred blanks through it.

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by trndobrd

Not sure if you mean dirty exterior, which is pretty much the same for all rifles, or cheap ammo that leaves a lot of residue. I can't say that I've ever shot cheap Russian ammo through an AR, but my guess is that the more crud you force through it, the more carbon and residue will end up in the rifle.

For a real good time, put on a blank adaptor and run a couple hundred blanks through it.

Inside dirty. Just wasn't sure if throwing some Russian ammo through it if it would dirty it up (interior) more than regular ammo. If the difference is negligible, it would be great due to the price difference in ammo.
I would imagine i would probably toss 200 rounds through it at a range trip -...but that's a wild arse guess. I usually run about 250 with my pistols per trip.

[frazod]

Originally Posted by Dayze

Inside dirty. Just wasn't sure if throwing some Russian ammo through it if it would dirty it up (interior) more than regular ammo. If the difference is negligible, it would be great due to the price difference in ammo.
I would imagine i would probably toss 200 rounds through it at a range trip -...but that's a wild arse guess. I usually run about 250 with my pistols per trip.

I would NOT, and I mean absolutely NOT, run cheap ass Russian ammo through my AR. Not just dirty firing, but dirty to the touch. After loading two magazines for my AK my thumb and index fingers were black with grime. No biggie for an AK, but an AR isn't going to deal with that as well.

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by frazod

I would NOT, and I mean absolutely NOT, run cheap ass Russian ammo through my AR. Not just dirty firing, but dirty to the touch. After loading two magazines for my AK my thumb and index fingers were black with grime. No biggie for an AK, but an AR isn't going to deal with that as well.

Interesting.

[frazod]

Originally Posted by Dayze

Interesting.

Never before loaded ammo that actually made my fingers dirty. It was weird.

[trndobrd]

Originally Posted by frazod

I would NOT, and I mean absolutely NOT, run cheap ass Russian ammo through my AR. Not just dirty firing, but dirty to the touch. After loading two magazines for my AK my thumb and index fingers were black with grime. No biggie for an AK, but an AR isn't going to deal with that as well.

I disagree. I would DEFINITELY run the Russian stuff through your AR. I would also 'unexpectedly' need to leave the range before cleanup time.

[frazod]

Originally Posted by trndobrd

I disagree. I would DEFINITELY run the Russian stuff through your AR. I would also 'unexpectedly' need to leave the range before cleanup time.

Your rifle, your call. But I'll pay the extra couple of bucks per box for mine.

[trndobrd]

Originally Posted by frazod

Your rifle, your call. But I'll pay the extra couple of bucks per box for mine.

Wasn't refering to MY rifle.