Off Season Lets Talk Guns

[HonestChieffan]

Been a while since we had a guns n' ammo discussion.


Some of you are AR shooters Im sure. Im looking at a Colt 6920. Will be my first AR. Picked up a Glock this fall and really enjoy shooting it. Any feedback on that weapon?



Anyone else been in a buy/sell/trade mood with hardware?

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Got a friend looking at a used Glock either Model 21 or 30 in a .45 ACP caliber for $500. Doesn’t seem like that good of a price, new they’re going for $550 – 700 online.
Thoughts?

My rule of thumb is 25%/ good condition.


It needs to be at least 25% cheaper than a new one and be in good condition or it isn't worth it. You have no idea how the gun has been treated, how many rounds have been ran through it, etc.

Guns are like car audio and airplanes: people usually embelish or bend the truth.

Besides, an extra $100 for full warranty and peace of mind is worth every penny.

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by notorious

My rule of thumb is 25%/ good condition.


It needs to be at least 25% cheaper than a new one and be in good condition or it isn't worth it. You have no idea how the gun has been treated, how many rounds have been ran through it, etc.

Guns are like car audio and airplanes: people usually embelish or bend the truth.

Besides, an extra $100 for full warranty and peace of mind is worth every penny.

I didn’t know that rule of thumb but that is basically what I told him.

[frazod]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Got a friend looking at a used Glock either Model 21 or 30 in a .45 ACP caliber for $500. Doesn’t seem like that good of a price, new they’re going for $550 – 700 online.
Thoughts?

summitgunbroker.com

They have a ton of used Glocks, all police trades. Which means some holster wear, but very little actual use.

This is where I got my H&K.

[BigOlChiefsfan]

Police trade in Glocks are usually a good buy, but the .45 models disappear so soon it'll make your head spin. If he's in no hurry, this fellow over in Grain Valley sells a lot of cop trade ins. Might find a good deal: http://summitgunbroker.com/GLOCKS.html

that'll teach me to share links w/Frazod. He beat me to it.

[frazod]

Originally Posted by BigOlChiefsfan

Police trade in Glocks are usually a good buy, but the .45 models disappear so soon it'll make your head spin. If he's in no hurry, this fellow over in Grain Valley sells a lot of cop trade ins. Might find a good deal: http://summitgunbroker.com/GLOCKS.html

that'll teach me to share links w/Frazod. He beat me to it.

Heh. I just checked, they don't have any .45s, but they do have .40s for $350.

[Dunit35]

Originally Posted by frazod

summitgunbroker.com

They have a ton of used Glocks, all police trades. Which means some holster wear, but very little actual use.

This is where I got my H&K.

I have probably shot 2500+ rounds through my M&P. I did take mine to the police academy, where I shot 1k of those rounds. If someone bought a duty pistol after an academy, it'll definetly have a low round count.

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by BigOlChiefsfan

Police trade in Glocks are usually a good buy, but the .45 models disappear so soon it'll make your head spin. If he's in no hurry, this fellow over in Grain Valley sells a lot of cop trade ins.

He’s actually not really looking, just working a job and was offered this one. I told him I thought the price was close enough to new it wasn’t worth buying this particular Glock.

Originally Posted by BigOlChiefsfan

Might find a good deal: http://summitgunbroker.com/GLOCKS.html

that'll teach me to share links w/Frazod. He beat me to it.

Well I thank you both for posting it, I hadn’t seen it before.

[BigOlChiefsfan]

FWIW - I got a really good deal on the gen 3 version of the Glock 37 thru Bud's as they were moving to the next generation - it shoots the Glock Auto Pistol 45 (45 GAP) round. A slightly shorter case than the 45 ACP = a little smaller grip. Better fit for a lot of folks. Good accuracy, recoil is sharp, but no biggie to me. About the only drawback is that not every Wal-Mart will have the 45 GAP ammo. I just buy my ammo online, and am working up enough empty cases to get one of my reloading buddies to run up reloads. The ammo is a little higher than 'cheap' 45 ACP, but frankly, when you put .45 holes in bad guys, the lead just costs mo' money than your 9mm. End of story.

Anyway, if you're looking to put a "spendy as the next fellow .45 caliber hole" in the bad guy AND you find a good price on the pistols (37 = 'full size', 38 = like a G19 mid size, 39 = tiny) I'd give 'em a thumbs up for performance, carry. Not so much on the ease of resupply. When these first came out, a lot of other gun makers put out a 45 GAP pistol but that seems to have dropped off. Like a lot of other good ideas in the gun world, it still has to be 'sexy' to sell. Practical won't always do. * (price for the 37 now matches everything else, so no longer a great bargain)

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...k+Fixed+Sights

Also - these folks carry a very nice-for-the-price Glock retention paddle holster made in Israel, about $17 from these guys - under another label, same holster will be more. On page 115.

http://site.cdnninvestments.com/CDNN2012-4/

[BigOlChiefsfan]

One more cheap holster for Glocks recco. This one is BY Glock. Doesn't look like much BUT it holds the gun well, rides close and high. Probably the best bang for the buck I've ever spent on holsters.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/594...-polymer-black

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

I didn’t know that rule of thumb but that is basically what I told him.

I made it up a while back.


I traded some wood floor work for a used AR-15 last year and got a good deal, but it fell under my rule of thumb.

[RaiderH8r]

What would y'all reasonably expect to pay for a new Sig p229 .40 with night sites and 12 round clip?

[notorious]

Originally Posted by RaiderH8r

What would y'all reasonably expect to pay for a new Sig p229 .40 with night sites and 12 round clip?

Buds is usually the cheapest. They are sometimes cheaper than my local dealer who sales at 10% over cost.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/a...g+229&x=31&y=9

$737

[frazod]

Originally Posted by BigOlChiefsfan

One more cheap holster for Glocks recco. This one is BY Glock. Doesn't look like much BUT it holds the gun well, rides close and high. Probably the best bang for the buck I've ever spent on holsters.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/594...-polymer-black

I just ordered some stuff from them last night - got a Dragunov stock for the AK and a couple of extra mags for the XDm.

Hadn't bought any gun stuff for a while - I was starting to get jittery.

[frazod]

Originally Posted by RaiderH8r

What would y'all reasonably expect to pay for a new Sig p229 .40 with night sites and 12 round clip?

You should also check Summit. He has good prices on Sigs.

[Iowanian]

I have an AR lower and I'm getting pretty close to building. Only issue is deciding what to build it for at this time...I'm leaning towards a light, mobile coyote gun.