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Old 01-23-2011, 10:58 AM  
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Been a while since we had a guns n' ammo discussion.


Some of you are AR shooters Im sure. Im looking at a Colt 6920. Will be my first AR. Picked up a Glock this fall and really enjoy shooting it. Any feedback on that weapon?



Anyone else been in a buy/sell/trade mood with hardware?

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Old 02-20-2013, 04:13 PM   #4006
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It's been another good week. I received 1,200 rounds of 7.62 x 39. That makes 2,700 rounds ever since the panic started.

Now I need to find a good AK to go with my SKS. But the pickings are slim and prices have gone up dramatically in the last couple months.
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:16 PM   #4007
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First time I'd heard about this was today...great idea.

Virginia Beach pizza shop owner shows support for gun rights by giving gun owners a discount

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. A Virginia Beach pizza shop owner is showing his support for firearm rights by giving gun owners a 15 percent discount.

The discount is given to anyone who brings a gun or concealed handgun permit to All Around Pizzas and Deli.

Owner Jay Laze tells news media outlets that hed planned on offering the discount for a limited time. But he says the response has been overwhelming and he might make it permanent.

Since the discount began last Friday, Laze says 80 percent of his customers have brought guns into the pizza shop. He says one customer came in with an AK-47.

Laze is a gun owner and says hes always been a supporter of the right to carry firearms.

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Old 02-20-2013, 05:31 PM   #4008
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:26 PM   #4009
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I've actually been toying with the idea of getting a tactical shotgun.

How much would you say you have in something like what you have, CrazyPhuD?
So part of it depends upon what you want. The best deal as a combination of features and reliability pre insanity was the VEPR-12. I tend to go for original configurations the way it was designed or at least the closest I can get to it with 922 issues.

Right now for my Vepr-12 I have the following invested and I haven't even started installing/getting all the bits.

$999 for the base VEPR-12
$90 for a US copy of the Molot competition muzzle brake
$100 for the Molot metal competition magwell
$350 for an original VEPR-12 folding stock on order
$125 for russian railed gasblock(they mill off the rail on the gasblock because it's not 'sporting' for import)
$400 5 8 round Izhmash factory magwell mags(they may US SGM ones now for cheaper)

Right now the only thing that's installed is the muzzle break. so
$$$+ for receiver mods for folding stock(mostly just a couple holes need drilling, but I'll probably have an experienced builder do it).
+money for 922 compliance parts so I can put on the folding stock.

Really your only sunk cost is the $999 for the base gun. I go for original parts as much as 922 allows me to because I want it to be like it was designed. If you want to customize it to look how you want it can go much cheaper. I go more for original russian, that's still functional rather than just tactical. For instance many europeans convert the VEPR-12 to use a folding M4 style stock for 3-gun rather than the original VEPR one. I still need to find the ambi-safety but that's a hard part to find. Some of my parts run more because it's fairly difficult to get the originals.

This shows the stock and the gas block rail(but not the brake or the magwell).



My magwell saiga-12 ran more but that was before the VEPRs came in country it was ~1500 fully converted. It's parts to convert it back to the way it was supposed to be are about the same as the VEPR costs. The mags I have I originally bought for the saiga-12 magwell but I want to pick up 10 round Molot mags if they bring them to the states.

Here's a recent Vid from russia that show's one of Molot's factory 3-gun builds....but we'll never see it here because it's not a 'sporting' gun.....

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Old 02-20-2013, 07:34 PM   #4010
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All the metal has been scrubbed as is now as clean as it is going to get. now I have to clean cosmoline out of the bottom of the bath tub. YAY!
I know cleaning all of the cosmoline off is a royal pain in the ass, but after seeing my buddy's slam fire a couple months ago... well, make sure you clean the shit out of that trigger group is all I am going to say.

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Old 02-20-2013, 07:38 PM   #4011
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:10 PM   #4012
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So part of it depends upon what you want. The best deal as a combination of features and reliability pre insanity was the VEPR-12. I tend to go for original configurations the way it was designed or at least the closest I can get to it with 922 issues.

Right now for my Vepr-12 I have the following invested and I haven't even started installing/getting all the bits.

$999 for the base VEPR-12
$90 for a US copy of the Molot competition muzzle brake
$100 for the Molot metal competition magwell
$350 for an original VEPR-12 folding stock on order
$125 for russian railed gasblock(they mill off the rail on the gasblock because it's not 'sporting' for import)
$400 5 8 round Izhmash factory magwell mags(they may US SGM ones now for cheaper)
That actually isn't as bad as I was thinking it might be.

Definitely will be a badass project that will be worth all of the trouble when it's all said and done.

I have been looking at Benelli M4's or possibly a good ole Spas-12. Not sure the extent to which you can mod them though.

It sounds like you have done quite a bit of homework on your project.

I definitely need to find out more about tactical 12's before I go balls deep on a shotgun project.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:52 PM   #4013
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:48 PM   #4014
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:16 AM   #4017
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This is a list of companies that have taken the step to publicly announce that they will not sell items to states, counties, cities, and municipalities that restrict their citizens rights to own them; therefore closing the "police loophole" themselves.http://www.thepoliceloophole.com/
Nice. But I'd like to see more big time gun makers like Colt, S & W, Ruger, Remington, and Glock join in.
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Nice. But I'd like to see more big time gun makers like Colt, S & W, Ruger, Remington, and Glock join in.
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I know cleaning all of the cosmoline off is a royal pain in the ass, but after seeing my buddy's slam fire a couple months ago... well, make sure you clean the shit out of that trigger group is all I am going to say.

Sounds like the old turn a popcan into shims to make a homemade trigger job. It works on 91/30s & M44s but to thick of shim & the trigger sear wont catch.
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