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Old 02-11-2011, 10:17 AM  
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Mubarak Steps Down

'Egypt is free! Egypt is free!'

Wild cheers erupted from tens of thousands of demonstrators in Cairo's Tahrir Square after word spread that Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak has resigned. Demonstrators chanted "Egypt is free!" upon hearing the news.

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Old 02-11-2011, 03:41 PM   #226
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Not what Rummy thought after meeting Saddam in person in the 1980s...
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Old 02-11-2011, 03:41 PM   #227
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Maybe Obama can convince Mubarak to spread some of his estimated $40 to $80 billion of personal wealth around to ease the pain?
Probably should since he got that money from the US.
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Old 02-11-2011, 03:42 PM   #228
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Fair enough and I agree with most of your assessment. As with probably any ME country the thought of an Islamist populism taking hold is fairly high even in Iraq once we leave.
I agree. The islamist danger is obvious, but I think people overlook the socialist populism danger because it will be described with soothing words like "secular" and "democratic".
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Old 02-11-2011, 03:43 PM   #229
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**** that. Another third world whiner expecting the US to do something for you and strapping a bomb to your belly when you feel slighted. Warts on the ass of the world.


Earning it with absolute ignorance... and pride of the ignorance.
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Old 02-11-2011, 03:44 PM   #230
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Probably should since he got that money from the US.
Are you sure about that?
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Old 02-11-2011, 03:44 PM   #231
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**** that. Another third world whiner expecting the US to do something for you and strapping a bomb to your belly when you feel slighted. Warts on the ass of the world.
Full of bigotry. Expected.
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Old 02-11-2011, 03:45 PM   #232
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Not what Rummy thought after meeting Saddam in person in the 1980s...
It's what everyone with a brain, including Rummy, thought. Saddam was a Soviet client that we aided on a limited basis purely out of convenience during the relatively brief period when he was in danger of losing his war against our enemies in Iran. Mubarak and the Shah were both in the US sphere of influence and longtime allies of the US.
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Old 02-11-2011, 03:45 PM   #233
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Not what Rummy thought after meeting Saddam in person in the 1980s...
What?
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Old 02-11-2011, 03:46 PM   #234
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What?
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Old 02-11-2011, 03:48 PM   #235
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Are you sure about that?
Well we have been giving Egypt billions of dollars every year. You don't think he stole some of that?
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Old 02-11-2011, 03:49 PM   #236
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Well we have been giving Egypt billions of dollars every year. You don't think he stole some of that?
I read that he acquired most of his wealth from defense contracts when he was still an air force general. I could be wrong, but I don't believe that we were spending much money in Egypt then.
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It's what everyone with a brain, including Rummy, thought. Saddam was a Soviet client that we aided on a limited basis purely out of convenience during the relatively brief period when he was in danger of losing his war against our enemies in Iran. Mubarak and the Shah were both in the US sphere of influence and longtime allies of the US.


It will eventually come out what Rummy filed after the visit. Rummy personally hated Saddam, perhaps because he was WRONG about Saddam... and eventually we will see that, just as we now see the CIA report about who starting shooting first in 67...
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But at the same time, stop blaming the US and the west for your own dictators. We didn't force them on you.
Ironic. You are okay with the US policing the world but still refuse to acknowledge that he US helped in keeping people like Hosni, AL Saud, Ben Ali etc in power.
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Not trying to be Debbie Downer here.....just pointing out the obvious that a lot of cards need to play out before we can decide if this truly is a skip thru the daisy field day.
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Ironic. You are okay with the US policing the world but still refuse to acknowledge that he US helped in keeping people like Hosni, AL Saud, Ben Ali etc in power.


He is because he is Israeli.
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