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Old 02-11-2011, 09:17 AM  
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Mubarak Steps Down

'Egypt is free! Egypt is free!'

Wild cheers erupted from tens of thousands of demonstrators in Cairo's Tahrir Square after word spread that Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak has resigned. Demonstrators chanted "Egypt is free!" upon hearing the news.

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Old 02-11-2011, 02:56 PM   #241
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That shows you how much weight it has, eh? I'm sure an Arab speaker would pay more attention to your support, however.
Nah, it just means you're not very bright when it comes to this subject. Iran and Palestine are completely different countries and have completely different plights. I'm sure pretty much every other person on this board could tell the difference.

It's alright. I don't know the first thing about science, really. The difference between us is that I don't have any illusions about that.

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No I'm not. Here's my first post to you:

"I could have sworn that it all started in Tunisia when some dude set himself on fire in protest of some wrong done him (that had nothing to do with Iran).

Am I wrong?"

So, was Tunisia the spark for Egypt or not?
Why would Tunisia be the spark for Egypt? I want to see your reasoning here.
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Old 02-11-2011, 02:59 PM   #242
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It will eventually come out what Rummy filed after the visit. Rummy personally hated Saddam, perhaps because he was WRONG about Saddam... and eventually we will see that, just as we now see the CIA report about who starting shooting first in 67...
No one cares about your "discovery" that Israel fired first in the Six Day War (1967). That was already common knowledge and has been for 40+ years. The essential information that you're missing (or choosing to ignore) is that Egypt had been massing troops in the Sinai and closed the straits on the east side of the Sinai to Israeli shipping (despite having plenty of warning that Israel would consider such a closure an act of war) in May of that year. Israel, knowing that it's existence was at stake, decided that their best chance of surviving another conflict with the Arab powers was to strike pre-emptively instead of waiting for Egypt and it's allies to choose the time and place of the conflict. Egypt instigated the Six Day War, but Israel dictated it's outcome.
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Old 02-11-2011, 02:59 PM   #243
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I read that he acquired most of his wealth from defense contracts when he was still an air force general. I could be wrong, but I don't believe that we were spending much money in Egypt then.
We have been giving Egypt almost $2 billion dollars a year since 1979. I don't believe for a second he didn't take some for himself
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Old 02-11-2011, 02:59 PM   #244
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Maybe Obama can convince Mubarak to spread some of his estimated $40 to $80 billion of personal wealth around to ease the pain?
Actually, about $40 billion of his wealth should go back into the state treasury.
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Old 02-11-2011, 03:00 PM   #245
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I agree. The islamist danger is obvious, but I think people overlook the socialist populism danger because it will be described with soothing words like "secular" and "democratic".
Okay Glenn Beck.
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Old 02-11-2011, 03:02 PM   #246
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stop blaming the US and the west for your own dictators. We didn't force them on you.
"We" didn't force all of them on "you."

We also didn't do a lot to help. Those tear gas canisters were made in the USA.
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Old 02-11-2011, 03:02 PM   #247
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Okay Glenn Beck.

He is really part of that which is the master of Beck, the FIXED cause of Zionism, which Beck bows to before ever getting a single second of airtime on FIXED...

I actually didn't think there was or could be a Zionist Libertarian, and now, after watching Beck, I'm sure I was right. Beck is a fraud of a libertarian, a sell out just like every other FIXED talking head...
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Old 02-11-2011, 03:03 PM   #248
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Nah, it just means you're not very bright when it comes to this subject. Iran and Palestine are completely different countries and have completely different plights. I'm sure pretty much every other person on this board could tell the difference.

It's alright. I don't know the first thing about science, really. The difference between us is that I don't have any illusions about that.
I'm not really sure what you are getting at. Heck, even I know that Palestine isn't a country.



But, please keep trying to make they point that I know nothing about world affairs.

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Why would Tunisia be the spark for Egypt? I want to see your reasoning here.
The timing soon after the successful Tunisian revolt.
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He is really part of that which is the master of Beck, the FIXED cause of Zionism, which Beck bows to before ever getting a single second of airtime on FIXED...

I actually didn't think there was or could be a Zionist Libertarian, and now, after watching Beck, I'm sure I was right. Beck is a fraud of a libertarian, a sell out just like every other FIXED talking head...
Don't you have another, much kookier message board to hang out at? Like antizionists.com or something?
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Okay Glenn Beck.
You know, I don't ever watch Glenn Beck's TV show and I rarely hear his radio program, but actually I did hear him talking about this yesterday on the radio. I assure you that I was concerned about this before hearing him though.
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We have been giving Egypt almost $2 billion dollars a year since 1979. I don't believe for a second he didn't take some for himself
I'm not arguing here, dirk. He probably did take from us, but I'm just going by what I've read (that he got most of it from AF contracts before becoming president).
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No one cares about your "discovery" that Israel fired first in the Six Day War (1967). That was already common knowledge and has been for 40+ years. The essential information that you're missing (or choosing to ignore) is that Egypt had been massing troops in the Sinai and closed the straits on the east side of the Sinai to Israeli shipping (despite having plenty of warning that Israel would consider such a closure an act of war) in May of that year. Israel, knowing that it's existence was at stake, decided that their best chance of surviving another conflict with the Arab powers was to strike pre-emptively instead of waiting for Egypt and it's allies to choose the time and place of the conflict. Egypt instigated the Six Day War, but Israel dictated it's outcome.


It is simply amazing how dumb those Egyptians were, starting a war every single military authority over a grunt know was a hopeless cause. Jane's Defense had Israel as a 50-1 favorite.

Now, who would start a war if one side had 50 and the other side had 1, the 1...

LOL!!!

Go tell that to General Hugh Shelton...
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It is simply amazing how dumb those Egyptians were, starting a war every single military authority over a grunt know was a hopeless cause. Jane's Defense had Israel as a 50-1 favorite.

Now, who would start a war if one side had 50 and the other side had 1, the 1...

LOL!!!

Go tell that to General Hugh Shelton...
And the war in 1973? You acknowledge that Egypt started that one, right?
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Old 02-11-2011, 03:08 PM   #254
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Not a single Arab would agree to that. If that is right, then why didn't we people protest shortly after that?

The biggest credit is due to Mohammad Boazizi may God bless his soul, he is the one who started this rolling, albeit unintentionally. Attributing this to what the US did in Iraq is laughable. In fact, every Arab compares what happened in Egypt and Tunisia to Iraq in a negative way. They say, over 1 Million people died to "liberate" Iraq while only less than a 1000 and less than 60 days to liberate Egypt and Tunisia combined.
Not a single bird would attribute its ability to fly to the mother who threw it out of the nest, either.
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But, please keep trying to make they point that I know nothing about world affairs.
I'm sorry, but when you ask questions like "why are Iranian protest signs in English?" it doesn't really leave me with the impression that you have the faintest clue what's going on.

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The timing soon after the successful Tunisian revolt.
That's it? The timing?

That's your smoking gun that Tunisia was the spark, but not Iran?
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