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Old 02-13-2011, 06:18 AM  
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Pakistan Nukes up 4x.

With all that is happening, this seems to have gone on very quietly.


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Old 02-13-2011, 08:24 AM   #2
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Old 02-13-2011, 12:03 PM   #3
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Pakistan... what happened there...

Well, see, the Taliban, those who were harboring AQ, of which AQ is almost a "special forces" of Taliban, they are big big trouble in northern Pakistan as well as Afghanistan...

Which is why it was so very important post 911 to make them THE PRIORITY and WIPE THEM OUT...

instead of....


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letting them off Ms. Bhutto and take over...
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Old 02-13-2011, 02:26 PM   #4
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who's gonna be the first Middle East recipient of a mushroom cloud?
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Old 02-13-2011, 03:07 PM   #5
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Keep watching FIXED and you can worry about that 24/7/365.

How old is nuke?

Yeah, the 1940s. The ME has had nukes for quite some time.

Two countries in the past 50 years in the ME have started wars, Iraq under Saddam twice, and Israel a few more times in smaller fashion. Both claimed they were attacked. Both lied according to our CIA. Funny, how you were so much for getting rid of one, and completely for selling out US assets and military to the other...

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Old 02-13-2011, 03:37 PM   #6
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Keep watching FIXED and you can worry about that 24/7/365.

How old is nuke?

Yeah, the 1940s. The ME has had nukes for quite some time.

Two countries in the past 50 years in the ME have started wars, Iraq under Saddam twice, and Israel a few more times in smaller fashion. Both claimed they were attacked. Both lied according to our CIA. Funny, how you were so much for getting rid of one, and completely for selling out US assets and military to the other...
How come you don't like to talk about 1948 and 1973? Are you unaware that Israel was attacked both times? I realize that Israel attacked pre-emptively in 1967, but the vast majority of the world acknowledges that she was about to be attacked by Egypt.
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Old 02-13-2011, 04:10 PM   #7
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How come you don't like to talk about 1948 and 1973? Are you unaware that Israel was attacked both times? I realize that Israel attacked pre-emptively in 1967, but the vast majority of the world acknowledges that she was about to be attacked by Egypt.

I believe 1948 is when the UN did what Albert Einstein advised against, set up a fully functional "Israel" complete with a military. That there was some violence about it at the time is pretty well recorded. Whether Israel was ever "attacked" initially is definitely clouded by the lack of candor of the 1967 war, where Israel had a vastly better army thanks to the US...

Quick scan of wiki...


Sinai War
(October 1956) - A military attack on Egypt by Britain, France and Israel, beginning on 29 October 1956,


6 day war
June 1967) - Fought between Israel and Arab neighbors Egypt, Jordan and Syria. The nations of Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Algeria and others also contributed troops and arms to the Arab forces. Following the war, the territory held by Israel expanded significantly (imagine that, complete with a genuine planet wide Zionist lie-a-thon to convince everyone "they, the Israelis," were under attack, the exact same excuse used by the two others in modern time, Hitler and Saddam...)


After that, it is all no different than the US participating in Desert Storm = Israel is outside its territory, Israel is the aggressor, and Israel should have been driven right back.


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Old 02-13-2011, 04:17 PM   #8
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I believe 1948 is when the UN did what Albert Einstein advised against, set up a fully functional "Israel" complete with a military. That there was some violence about it at the time is pretty well recorded. Whether Israel was ever "attacked" initially is definitely clouded by the lack of candor of the 1967 war, where Israel had a vastly better army thanks to the US...

Quick scan of wiki...


Sinai War
(October 1956) - A military attack on Egypt by Britain, France and Israel, beginning on 29 October 1956,


6 day war
June 1967) - Fought between Israel and Arab neighbors Egypt, Jordan and Syria. The nations of Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Algeria and others also contributed troops and arms to the Arab forces. Following the war, the territory held by Israel expanded significantly (imagine that, complete with a genuine planet wide Zionist lie-a-thon to convince everyone "they, the Israelis," were under attack, the exact same excuse used by the two others in modern time, Hitler and Saddam...)


After that, it is all no different than the US participating in Desert Storm = Israel is outside its territory, Israel is the aggressor, and Israel should have been driven right back.


h ttp://einsteinonisrael.c om/


"I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state. …the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power….I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain – especially from the development of a narrow nationalism within our own ranks…"
No, Israel was attacked in both 1948 and 1973 (which you still didn't even attempt to address).
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Old 02-13-2011, 04:20 PM   #9
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Keep watching FIXED and you can worry about that 24/7/365.

How old is nuke?

Yeah, the 1940s. The ME has had nukes for quite some time.

Two countries in the past 50 years in the ME have started wars, Iraq under Saddam twice, and Israel a few more times in smaller fashion. Both claimed they were attacked. Both lied according to our CIA. Funny, how you were so much for getting rid of one, and completely for selling out US assets and military to the other...
1940 ? Really ?
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i have no idea what you're referring to in the bolded parts. care to explain?
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No, Israel was attacked in both 1948 and 1973 (which you still didn't even attempt to address).


Israel was "attacked" in 1973 just like Iraq was "attacked" during Desert Storm, for being outside of its UN defined border in territory it took by force and by lying about being attacked first.


The UN's 1948 "forced relocation" to create "Israel" was nothing less than the UN's version of the "Trail of Tears" in the US, something anyone who cheers for the "Chiefs" should understand...
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i have no idea what you're referring to in the bolded parts. care to explain?


I don't know how many times I have to document what W actually did post 911, and why. It has to be all over at least a dozen topics... but I'll summarize...

In short, the US invasion of Iraq in 2003 was all about the election of 1992, and what W "learned" from 1992. Despite Saddam being toothless and in his UN cage for a decade, with the UN saying Saddam was in his cage and not a problem in 2003, W was intent on "winning" in 2004 by following the "Clinton strategy." Clinton first "emerged" in the 1992 Dem primaries because he was the most vocal and bellicose of the Dems who argued that Bush 41 "didn't finish the (Israeli, not our) job" by flipping off 119 Gulf War allies and invading and occupying Iraq with just US troops paid for by just US taxdollars as the Israeli Lobby (Dick Morris, Rupert Murdoch, Dennis Miller, Judy Miller, who are now all "conservatives" on FIXED despite being 100% for Clinton in 1992) wanted. Clinton's campaign coffers quickly filled with Israeli cash, and the "US media" gave Bill Clinton in 1992 what is, still, the most favorable media coverage ever. And Bush 41, having done the "right thing" for the US by keeping the US out of Iraq and turning Iraq over to the UN, LOST... that is what W "learned," that is why W sought and found the few empirically discredited Bush 41 holdovers who argued for selling US troops out in Iraq, Rummy and Cheney (although Cheney in 1995 was still accurately defending Bush 41 and claiming, correctly, that an invasion of Iraq would trigger a Sunni-Shia civil war, which, of course, it did...), and absolutely positively refused to listen to

Gen Schwarzkopf
Scowcroft
Eagleburger
Bush 41 himself

about why it was dumb to invade Iraq in 2003 with the "not a priority war" ongoing in Afghan...

Eagleburger and the late Bob Novak, perhaps the last of the true "Jewish conservatives/libertarians" were particularly vocal in arguing against W publicly, and you will never produce a "photo op" of W with H Norman...


Bush 43 validated Bush 41 when he invaded over intentional lies and found Saddam just as toothless as the UN said all along...


but with the "soft on (Israel's, not our) terror" coverage from our "us media" and big bucks from AIPAC, W got re-elected... unlike his fiscally conservative and patriotic father...
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FIXED is Fox News, always FIXED on the subject of why it is so very urgent for the US to use the US military to wipe out all of Israel's enemies who had precisely nothing to do with 911...
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Israel was "attacked" in 1973 just like Iraq was "attacked" during Desert Storm, for being outside of its UN defined border in territory it took by force and by lying about being attacked first.


The UN's 1948 "forced relocation" to create "Israel" was nothing less than the UN's version of the "Trail of Tears" in the US, something anyone who cheers for the "Chiefs" should understand...
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