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Old 02-17-2011, 01:38 AM  
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Just a quick thing.

Any chance we can all chill out with the Israel/Palestine stuff that's been going on in this forum in recent weeks?

There's been like two or three big news stories on the topic recently, including a fascinating WikiLeaks memo. But I hesitate to even bring some of that stuff to discussion around here like I do on other forums because the conversation here gets hyperbolic really quickly.

People who believe Israel is largely in the right are accosted by some of the conspiracy-crazy assholes around here who don't make any sense, and are often branded as racist and anti-Muslim, when that's rarely if ever the case. And the folks who frequently argue that Israel is in the wrong are labeled as anti-Semites who want to see Israel slowly deteriorate into nothing and/or support terrorism.

I'm wondering if it's possible we take the temperature down on this particular subject, as I think it's unnecessary and it just stunts useful conversation. If it's not, I'll be quiet. But I was just hoping.

Any and all thoughts welcome.
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Old 02-17-2011, 02:04 AM   #2
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Old 02-17-2011, 05:22 AM   #3
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Old 02-17-2011, 07:02 AM   #4
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:37 AM   #5
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Any chance we can all chill out with the Israel/Palestine stuff that's been going on in this forum in recent weeks?

There's been like two or three big news stories on the topic recently, including a fascinating WikiLeaks memo. But I hesitate to even bring some of that stuff to discussion around here like I do on other forums because the conversation here gets hyperbolic really quickly.
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:47 AM   #6
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We should ramp it up, because some of us have excessively large e-peens.
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:03 AM   #7
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Direckshun means "LaDairis" in arabic.
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:04 AM   #8
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Direckshun means "LaDairis" in arabic.
Sorry LaDairis, that was a low blow.
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:07 AM   #9
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We know the US gives billions every year to Israel, billions in weapons and money.

Tell us, pat, what has Israel ever done for the US, besides...


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Old 02-17-2011, 09:13 AM   #10
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Any chance we can all chill out with the Israel/Palestine stuff that's been going on in this forum in recent weeks?

There's been like two or three big news stories on the topic recently, including a fascinating WikiLeaks memo. But I hesitate to even bring some of that stuff to discussion around here like I do on other forums because the conversation here gets hyperbolic really quickly.

People who believe Israel is largely in the right are accosted by some of the conspiracy-crazy assholes around here who don't make any sense, and are often branded as racist and anti-Muslim, when that's rarely if ever the case. And the folks who frequently argue that Israel is in the wrong are labeled as anti-Semites who want to see Israel slowly deteriorate into nothing and/or support terrorism.

I'm wondering if it's possible we take the temperature down on this particular subject, as I think it's unnecessary and it just stunts useful conversation. If it's not, I'll be quiet. But I was just hoping.

Any and all thoughts welcome.
In seriousness, I don't see any reason not to post something and see what happens. If it devolves into a mudfight, as this topic is likely to do as long as LaDairis is on the prowl for Jew sympathizers, so what? You can still say your piece and ignore the clutter if you want.
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:16 AM   #11
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lying to us about shooting first in 1967
You're the only person I know who thinks this. As far as I know, the reality is that it was obvious from the moment it happened that Israel shot first. When did they ever lie about it?
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:21 AM   #12
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You're the only person I know who thinks this. As far as I know, the reality is that it was obvious from the moment it happened that Israel shot first. When did they ever lie about it?
The IDF motto is basically "Shoot first."
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:25 AM   #13
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The IDF motto is basically "Shoot first."
That works well in the Duke Nukem games but that's about it.
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:31 AM   #14
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I don't mind Israel....hell with as much money as we send them (along with soo many others), I think we should have contracted them to fight everyone of our wars over there. The middle east likes our money but in all reality hates us anyway and they would have done the job right! None of this worried about peoples civil liberties BS.
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:34 AM   #15
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That works well in the Duke Nukem games but that's about it.
Or if most of your neighbors want to see you destroyed. I have no illusions about Isreal being saints living amunst sinners, I'm sure their hands are just as dirty as their neighbors. But that said, being where they are, I can certainly understand why they would adopt that mentality.

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