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Old 02-25-2011, 08:47 PM  
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Raise taxes, according to AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka.

No wonder unions are a mess.


So, you like $3.00 Gas...$4.00 Gas....what if we just tack on another buck in a new tax? Union leadership think its a dandy idea!!!!

This guy has a direct line to Obama.

(Yahoo! News)- What’s the best way to get Americans back to work?

Raise taxes, according to AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka. Specifically, he wants to raise the federal gas tax as a means to fund infrastructure spending. “We need a dedicated source of revenue to create infrastructure in this country,” he tells Aaron Task in the accompanying clip.

“We need to create jobs. The best way to do that is through infrastructure development.” Simply maintaining the existing infrastructure in this country will cost $2.2 trillion over five years, according to the American Society of Civil Engineers. That doesn’t include Obama’s objective of high-speed rails and green energy projects.

Trumka didn’t say specifically how much he would raise the gas tax, but mentioned he’s shown the President a $256 billion plan to improve infrastructure. If every billion spent on infrastructure creates 35,000 jobs, as he claims, this package would create close to 9 million jobs over the next five years.

The idea would also improve America’s fiscal and competitive future, says Trumka. “There’s also a downstream effect, you put people back to work, they pay taxes, they don’t use services, they’re contributing, other jobs are created along the way as well,” he explains.

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Old 02-25-2011, 11:13 PM   #2
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raising taxes, hmmmm...

not a good way to start a discussion these days...

i agree with the guy when he talks about the downstream effect, particularly the part about not using services as a savings...

i hadn't thought of that but it does sound like a useful way to address entitlement spending...
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Old 02-25-2011, 11:37 PM   #3
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I'm not entirely opposed to having taxes at the level they were during the Clinton Era in times of Economic prosperity, however, a raise in taxes in these times of economic uncertainty seems like it could spur far reaching consequences throughout our society.
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Old 02-26-2011, 06:17 AM   #4
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It's insane how well we have it compared to other nations and some want you to believe we are living in a shit hole.
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Old 02-26-2011, 06:49 AM   #5
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raising taxes, hmmmm...

not a good way to start a discussion these days...

i agree with the guy when he talks about the downstream effect, particularly the part about not using services as a savings...

i hadn't thought of that but it does sound like a useful way to address entitlement spending...
Of course he's going to say that. And there's some small truth to that. But here's the better argument. The unions that are protecting shitty, lazy workers who aren't accountable for their jobs... how about we actually force them to be productive, which makes our products better and more competitive in the global market, and in the case of the public sector, allows us to do better work more efficiently which allows us to cut taxes?

Or how about this... if you make the public sector more efficient, you can cut taxes on small businesses, who are far more capable of creating jobs.

I'm not going to pay more taxes to pay for a few more unproductive workers.
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Old 02-26-2011, 07:31 AM   #6
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raising taxes, hmmmm...

not a good way to start a discussion these days...

i agree with the guy when he talks about the downstream effect, particularly the part about not using services as a savings...

i hadn't thought of that but it does sound like a useful way to address entitlement spending...

More taxes=Union Jobs=More Union dues=Trumka gets richer. This is putting the Fox in charge of the hen house.
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Old 02-26-2011, 07:38 AM   #7
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Old 02-26-2011, 07:53 AM   #8
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Down stream effect? It sounds like the socialist version of trickle-down economics using tax money.
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Old 02-26-2011, 07:57 AM   #9
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It's insane how well we have it compared to other nations
...that's their whole motivation to redistribute the wealth.

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please try to keep up.
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Old 02-26-2011, 09:11 AM   #10
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If every billion spent on infrastructure creates 35,000 jobs, as he claims, this package would create close to 9 million (Union) jobs over the next five years.

yup...
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Old 02-26-2011, 09:38 AM   #11
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It's insane how well we have it compared to other nations and some want you to believe we are living in a shit hole.
...yet liberals are the first ones to try and make us believe the rest of the world does things better/smarter than we.
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Old 02-26-2011, 09:42 AM   #12
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The last time gas hit $3+ bucks a gallon the economy started it's slide into the sewer. Gas prices are the anchor log at the bottom of the jenga pile. Wut? Farmers don't plant, fertilize and harvest their crops by computer. Stone age morons better get up to speed.
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:19 AM   #13
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Our infrastructure is bad/horrible. A higher gas tax isn't th answer though. We need new technology when it comes to roads though.

As to the internet, electric, and phone line infrastructure that should and needs to be paid for by the private sector and or the coops that currently exist.

Water pipes and water plants are a big concern though.
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:55 AM   #14
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Of course he's going to say that. And there's some small truth to that. But here's the better argument. The unions that are protecting shitty, lazy workers who aren't accountable for their jobs... how about we actually force them to be productive, which makes our products better and more competitive in the global market, and in the case of the public sector, allows us to do better work more efficiently which allows us to cut taxes?

Or how about this... if you make the public sector more efficient, you can cut taxes on small businesses, who are far more capable of creating jobs.

I'm not going to pay more taxes to pay for a few more unproductive workers.
a few more?

the article is claiming 9 million jobs could be created with an major infrastructure rebuilding project...
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:57 AM   #15
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More taxes=Union Jobs=More Union dues=Trumka gets richer. This is putting the Fox in charge of the hen house.
tee hee, he said fox...

fox news in charge of the hen house...
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