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Old 03-28-2011, 01:46 PM  
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Would YOU draft Bowers if he fell because his physicals kept failing out...

Question in the thread title.

Bowers, dropping like a rock now due to physicals giving him fits.

Would you draft the guy, even with his injury issues, at 21?
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:47 PM   #2
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:50 PM   #3
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If we did, I'd hope that we would move back to a 4-3.
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:50 PM   #4
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If he were to clear the physicals, which he would have to if we picked him at 21, I'd be fine with him. Could he play NT?
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:51 PM   #5
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If we did, I'd hope that we would move back to a 4-3.
Why?
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:54 PM   #6
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Why?
Because in Crennel's defense he'd be two-gapping, which would disrupt what he's best at.
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If he were to clear the physicals, which he would have to if we picked him at 21, I'd be fine with him. Could he play NT?
What the ****?
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Because in Crennel's defense he'd be two-gapping, which would disrupt what he's best at.
I'd have him drop 10 pounds and play OLB. Dude is an athletic freak.
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Old 03-28-2011, 01:59 PM   #9
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I'd have him drop 10 pounds and play OLB. Dude is an athletic freak.
6'3 270 is still pretty big for an OLB.
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Old 03-28-2011, 02:01 PM   #10
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It is. I'd put money on it that Bowers is better in space than Hali though.
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Old 03-28-2011, 02:04 PM   #11
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It is. I'd put money on it that Bowers is better in space than Hali though.
Oh I'm sure that he is, but would you want either one of those guys playing the LOLB in a Crennel defense?

It just seems to make more sense to have both of those guys doing what they do well: kill quarterbacks.
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Old 03-28-2011, 02:09 PM   #12
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Oh I'm sure that he is, but would you want either one of those guys playing the LOLB in a Crennel defense?

It just seems to make more sense to have both of those guys doing what they do well: kill quarterbacks.
Good point but then we'd have to gut the linebackers where as if we stayed with the 3-4 I'd argue we'd be just a NT away from a dominate defense.
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Old 03-28-2011, 02:11 PM   #13
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If we did, I'd hope that we would move back to a 4-3.
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Good point but then we'd have to gut the linebackers where as if we stayed with the 3-4 I'd argue we'd be just a NT away from a dominate defense.
No we wouldn't.

4-3:

Hali-Dorsey-Smith/Jackson-Bowers

Johnson-Belcher-Williams

Carr-Berry-Lewis-Flowers

What's so bad about that defense?

You bring Gilberry in as a pass rusher from the 3T slot on third downs, and that team could really get after the QB.

It would never happen, but I see that as a good look.
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No we wouldn't.

4-3:

Hali-Dorsey-Smith/Jackson-Bowers

Johnson-Belcher-Williams

Carr-Berry-Lewis-Flowers

What's so bad about that defense?

You bring Gilberry in as a pass rusher from the 3T slot on third downs, and that team could really get after the QB.

It would never happen, but I see that as a good look.
Johnson isn't nearly the kind of player that he is when playing ILB in the 3-4. I don't know how good Belcher would be as a MLB in the 3-4 and Williams is just bleh.
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