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Old 04-25-2011, 03:51 PM  
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Game of Thrones (spoiler-free zone)

A few have suggested it, might as well test the waters. The idea is to give people who haven't read the books a safe place to talk about the show.

A few quick ground rules:
  • No Spoilers!!!!! for upcoming episodes.
  • Larger Song of Ice and Fire discussion should be limited to the other thread although I think a tiny bit of book delving to fill in holes should be okay (example of this would be talking about Catelyn and her treatment of the wolves in the novel, which was alluded to on TV but never really made clear...)
  • Everything that happened that week is fair game once an episode airs. So if you don't watch on Sunday night, I'd stay outta here until you do...
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Old 04-13-2014, 08:47 PM   #1591
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so who was the most cowardly person at the wedding?
Varys probably.
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Old 04-13-2014, 08:49 PM   #1592
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Olenna Tyrell was mentioning to Sansa that only a coward would murder someone during a wedding. Not sure if she used the word coward, but as soon as she said that I knew someone was gonna die.

Could have been her.
I love her, as a character. (and actor) She also said something like, "As if men need another reason to fear marriage."
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Old 04-13-2014, 08:54 PM   #1593
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I love her, as a character. (and actor) She also said something like, "As if men need another reason to fear marriage."
Yep, Diana Rigg better known as Emma Peel from The Avengers (BBC tv show).
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:00 PM   #1594
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Varys probably.
i think so too
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:10 PM   #1595
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So, who takes the blame?
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:17 PM   #1596
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I'm guessing Tyrion is going to be blamed. He already was.

I feel like whoever felt like they had to do this at the wedding may not have had regular access to Joffrey otherwise, so I think that rules out his closest family.
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:18 PM   #1597
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Well that was unexpected. I figured it was coming this season, but in the 2nd episode? Wow.

Tyrion's clearly going to catch the blame (and he may need his father/Jaime's help to get out of it somehow), but if I had to guess at who did it, it would be Tywin. Joffrey was too much of a loose cannon for him to control and he's all about maintaining his family's legacy. Such a risk for him to take, yes, but maybe he felt it was necessary with that kid.
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:23 PM   #1598
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yeah, that and Tywin gets along well with Olenna Tyrell.
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:23 PM   #1599
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Wouldn't be surprised if Olenna Tyrell was in on it too, although I don't know what she would really gain from it (beyond getting Margaery out of harm's way). Could have made a deal with Tywin, though?

Poison doesn't seem like it would be Oberyn's style (and his revenge is also more directed Tywin's way for how he sacked King's Landing).
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:23 PM   #1600
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I'm guessing Tyrion is going to be blamed. He already was.

I feel like whoever felt like they had to do this at the wedding may not have had regular access to Joffrey otherwise, so I think that rules out his closest family.
Ahh but doing it public with lots of other people who may not like Joffery muddies the waters a whole lot. Where as doing it in private does not.
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:25 PM   #1601
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Ahh but doing it public with lots of other people who may not like Joffery muddies the waters a whole lot. Where as doing it in private does not.
I think whoever did it was trying to make it look like he choked, not poisoned. But Cersei immediately saw through it.
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:27 PM   #1602
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I think whoever did it was trying to make it look like he choked, not poisoned. But Cersei immediately saw through it.
Usually blood doesn't come flowing out of your nose when you choke to death. Not to mention Joffery's cheeks turned red like a rash rather then the pale blue you would expect from lack of oxygen.
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:29 PM   #1603
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Usually blood doesn't come flowing out of your nose when you choke to death. Not to mention Joffery's cheeks turned red like a rash rather then the pale blue you would expect from lack of oxygen.
Agreed. Doesn't mean whoever did it didn't want it to look accidental, though.
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Ahh but doing it public with lots of other people who may not like Joffery muddies the waters a whole lot. Where as doing it in private does not.
Great point.
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Tywin does not like Tyrion
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