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Old 04-25-2011, 04:51 PM  
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Game of Thrones (spoiler-free zone)

A few have suggested it, might as well test the waters. The idea is to give people who haven't read the books a safe place to talk about the show.

A few quick ground rules:
  • No Spoilers!!!!! for upcoming episodes.
  • Larger Song of Ice and Fire discussion should be limited to the other thread although I think a tiny bit of book delving to fill in holes should be okay (example of this would be talking about Catelyn and her treatment of the wolves in the novel, which was alluded to on TV but never really made clear...)
  • Everything that happened that week is fair game once an episode airs. So if you don't watch on Sunday night, I'd stay outta here until you do...
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:27 PM   #766
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So did I miss the reason why the King's representative on the battlefield tried to take out Tyrion?
No, it will be elaborated upon.
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:24 PM   #767
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What a great episode!! My favorite from last season was the "Barlor" episode....however they really went all out with this one. Last night's episode really set the standard for special effects on the small screen and it actually mattered because we care about the people fighting. Plus, I love to see big groups of men with swords and shields run into each other. I thought the shooting of the single arrow was brilliantly done directed. I also loved Tyrion's line "Oh, f**k me...." when thousands of Baratheon troops charged right after they stopped the ram at the gate.

The best part of it all, though, even better than the special effects, was that you really got to see the main players for who they truly were last night. Tyrion is a true leader stuck in the wrong body and last night's episode was a true display of his genius. Sansa would make a great queen someday. Stannis is a warrior, not a king. Joffrey is a sniveling coward better fitted to cleaning stables. The Hound is more than just a killing machine, even though he'd kill you if you said so. And Cersei is, well, a stunning ****....she's very beautiful and she's as smart as any man, and certainly more politically savvy than Jaime, but she gets treated like crap. Even as queen her power derives from the men around her, and she's rightfully pissed off. She tells Sansa of some very difficult truths in this episode....she has to grow up very fast in this world if she's going to make it.

My favorite characters in this episode were obviously Tyrion and probably Cersei. I wouldn't be suprised to see Peter Dinklage or Lena Headey win an Emmy for that episode....they were both fantastic! This episode to me, was easily the best hour of the series thus far, and it might not be a stretch to say its in the top 5 of all episodes of all shows....ever! Which is really a nice suprise but also a cure, because next week could do an insanely awesome job of tying up all this year's loose ends and setting up next year, but it probably still will not hold a candle to last night's episode. I do hope I'm wrong about that theory!
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:04 PM   #768
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Stannis certainly was a warrior born. Watching the fleet blow up and then ordering the attack; riding on the prow of the first landing boat in; being first up the ladder and taking on all comers. He may be cold, but he's certainly not afraid.
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:12 PM   #769
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Nothing, and I will definitely miss the show after this season ends. But that doesn't change my opinion that this season was kind of boring and certainly not as good as the first season. Just my opinion.

I haven't read the books, but it feels like the events of this season could have been done in about five episodes instead of ten.
Seeing as how Clash of Kings was, IMO, the weakest of the books thus far - that's probably fair. A lot of people thing a Feast for Crows is the worst of the present 5, but I think it's Clash in a walk.

This season covered most of the ground in Clash and set it up for a Storm of Swords. Swords is easily the best of the 3 in my mind.

If season 3 is seen as boring when all is said and done, it will be HBO's fault, because the source material is exceptional.
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:56 PM   #770
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Seeing as how Clash of Kings was, IMO, the weakest of the books thus far - that's probably fair. A lot of people thing a Feast for Crows is the worst of the present 5, but I think it's Clash in a walk.

This season covered most of the ground in Clash and set it up for a Storm of Swords. Swords is easily the best of the 3 in my mind.

If season 3 is seen as boring when all is said and done, it will be HBO's fault, because the source material is exceptional.
I think it depends on what aspects of the story you are into the most. If you're into getting to know the secondary characters from Game of Thrones in a bit more depth, then Clash is fantastic. If you're in it for sudden twists, Game is your choice. If you're in it for action, Storm will do it. And if you're in it for political scheming and maneuvering, Feast/Dance are probably pretty awesome.

For me, the first one will always be epic just because of how much it broke the mold for epic fantasy. Book 3 is probably my second-favorite, followed by Book 2. I didn't get much out of 4/5, but I can see where he's going with a few things, so I can live with it.
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:59 PM   #771
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Stannis certainly was a warrior born. Watching the fleet blow up and then ordering the attack; riding on the prow of the first landing boat in; being first up the ladder and taking on all comers. He may be cold, but he's certainly not afraid.
Outside of his commitment to the God of Light, it would seem he'd be a much better King than some of the other want to be's.
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Old 05-28-2012, 04:29 PM   #772
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No, it will be elaborated upon.
I am reading Book 2, but I am only in the first third, so I am not spoiling, only speculating. But, the obvious reasoning, to me, is that Cerci is behind it. She has motivation to see Tyrion dead, and she blames him for their mother's death.
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Old 05-28-2012, 04:45 PM   #773
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I am reading Book 2, but I am only in the first third, so I am not spoiling, only speculating. But, the obvious reasoning, to me, is that Cerci is behind it. She has motivation to see Tyrion dead, and she blames him for their mother's death.
I wouldn't put anything past Cersei, but doesn't compute in this case. Either Tyrion is needed to help win the war (which is more of an immediate threat to Cersei than Tyrion) or he'll be killed as a result of Stannis taking the throne anyway.
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Old 05-28-2012, 05:36 PM   #775
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Stannis certainly was a warrior born. Watching the fleet blow up and then ordering the attack; riding on the prow of the first landing boat in; being first up the ladder and taking on all comers. He may be cold, but he's certainly not afraid.
That struct me as a little crazy -- Alexander the Great kinda crazy.
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Old 05-28-2012, 05:49 PM   #776
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That struct me as a little crazy -- Alexander the Great kinda crazy.
Yeah, that seemed pretty unrealistic to me.
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No, no, and no.
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Old 05-28-2012, 06:59 PM   #778
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No, no, and no.
I'm sure its just my tastes. Not really into the sword/socery/fantasy stuff. Gangster and modern day spy stuff is more in my lane. But, dont get me wrong this is quality stuff. Very entertaining.
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I'm sure its just my tastes. Not really into the sword/socery/fantasy stuff. Gangster and modern day spy stuff is more in my lane. But, dont get me wrong this is quality stuff. Very entertaining.
The only thing close for me is Breaking Bad. Justified's another favorite, but I'd put it just a notch below.

I do like the 3 you mentioned.
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Yeah, that seemed pretty unrealistic to me.
Yeah, well, it's not realistic for a four-and-a-half-foot man to chop off a grown man's leg with one swing from a tomahawk, or for archers to hold their bows at full draw while a ship slooooowly sails by, or for experienced knights to charge into battle helmetless, or for a teardrop shield held an inch above someone to deflect a soccer-ball sized rock dropped from a great height without so much as dipping from the force and bonking the target on the head.

But it's heroic fantasy. You gotta just run with it.
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