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Old 04-25-2011, 04:51 PM  
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Game of Thrones (spoiler-free zone)

A few have suggested it, might as well test the waters. The idea is to give people who haven't read the books a safe place to talk about the show.

A few quick ground rules:
  • No Spoilers!!!!! for upcoming episodes.
  • Larger Song of Ice and Fire discussion should be limited to the other thread although I think a tiny bit of book delving to fill in holes should be okay (example of this would be talking about Catelyn and her treatment of the wolves in the novel, which was alluded to on TV but never really made clear...)
  • Everything that happened that week is fair game once an episode airs. So if you don't watch on Sunday night, I'd stay outta here until you do...
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:16 AM   #841
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They did a poor job of explaining Jon Snow's part I thought, but basically Quorin Halfhand wanted Jon to join the wildlings to get information, and he wanted to avoid being tortured to death, so he staged the anger toward Jon and the fight so Jon would kill him and the wildlings would accept Jon as a traitor to the NW and let him join the wildlings. But Quorin reminds Jon of his NW vows as he is dying.
I got that - didn't think it was that confusing. Though after last episode this one was kind of anti-climactic.
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Old 06-04-2012, 12:05 PM   #842
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That was fun! Loved the Iron Maiden zombie white walker thing at the end, he looked cool.

Loved the dragons lighting up that creepy ass Pyatt Pree and then Dany locking Xaro and the traitor woman in the wall safe. Dany can be downright cruel if you cross her, just like when Viserys got killed or she burned that witch alive that killed Drogo and her son.

They did a poor job of explaining Jon Snow's part I thought, but basically Quorin Halfhand wanted Jon to join the wildlings to get information, and he wanted to avoid being tortured to death, so he staged the anger toward Jon and the fight so Jon would kill him and the wildlings would accept Jon as a traitor to the NW and let him join the wildlings. But Quorin reminds Jon of his NW vows as he is dying.
Quorin knew he was likely dead and he saw the value of Jon going undercover within the wildling army (he says so in a previous episode). He had a feeling they would accept Jon if he killed one of his own. It was much more clear in the book what was going on there.
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Old 06-04-2012, 03:11 PM   #843
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That was one of the detriments of only having 10 episodes. They didn't really have time to establish who Quorin was, just how much of a badass he really was and then set up his sacrifice in the end. That's one of the few real missed beats they've had in the series so far. That's such a pivotal part of the book, and for setting up Jon's role in the next book(s). It will work out fine in the end, I think, they'll get to the same point, but I thought it could have been done much better than it was.
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Old 06-04-2012, 04:51 PM   #844
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I haven't read the books either and I thought the entire season was tits. Can't wait til season 3!!

I didn't plan on liking this show...was fully prepared to make jokes about dungeons and dragons nerds....and knew the wife would hate it.

Daenarys, the stupid ass dragons and the zombie bullshit is really the only part of this I don't enjoy. I'm ready for that yellow haired nag
to get frozen to death in a snowball.

We both really enjoy this show and are left waiting for season 3.

2 years ago, I don't know if I'd have read these books if you paid me, but I'm thinking about it now.
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Old 06-04-2012, 04:54 PM   #845
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They already have. Most of the stuff with Jamie Lannister was book 3.

Storm in particular is so dense I would imagine it will require multiple seasons.
Good points.
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Old 06-04-2012, 04:56 PM   #846
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I didn't plan on liking this show...was fully prepared to make jokes about dungeons and dragons nerds....and knew the wife would hate it.

Daenarys, the stupid ass dragons and the zombie bullshit is really the only part of this I don't enjoy. I'm ready for that yellow haired nag
to get frozen to death in a snowball.

We both really enjoy this show and are left waiting for season 3.

2 years ago, I don't know if I'd have read these books if you paid me, but I'm thinking about it now.
Interesting. My wife and I both really like Daenarys.
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Old 06-04-2012, 04:57 PM   #847
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Wife likes her, but doesn't "get" her story line. I don't like anything about her story line so far, other than when I anticipated drago chopping off heads.

I badly want terrible things to happen to Joffrey and the lannisters, sans the Midget.
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Old 06-04-2012, 05:49 PM   #848
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I will say this, Book 3 Dany is WAY better than book 2 Dany, so maybe you'll enjoy her story more next season. I must admit to being disappointed that we did not get any Dany nudity this season.
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Old 06-04-2012, 05:53 PM   #849
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Interesting. My wife and I both really like Daenarys.
The tv show doesn't do a very good job of bringing out Danny's character IMHO. I can see where someone that hasn't read the books wouldn't be too impressed by her so far.
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:38 PM   #850
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I will say this, Book 3 Dany is WAY better than book 2 Dany, so maybe you'll enjoy her story more next season.
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:41 PM   #851
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The tv show doesn't do a very good job of bringing out Danny's character IMHO. I can see where someone that hasn't read the books wouldn't be too impressed by her so far.
I would argue it's the opposite. I think she's been a much better character on tv than she ever was in the books to this point. If I remember right, she was even lower on my list at the end of book 2 than Sansa (with whom they've also done a better job).

Her story never took off for me until book 3. Prior to that, my reactions were usually between "oh shit another dany chapter" and *flips 20 pages forward to something interesting*.

Aside from the House of the Undying, which was so incredibly more cool in the book than it was on TV. Although I understand why they removed all the foreshadowing.
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Who was jon snow fighting at the end and what did that have to do with anything?

And with the old guy telling theon to go join the knight's watch? Come on, I feel like that group is laughed at by everyone. They obviousLy will be no match for Bootstrap Bill and his band of pirates.
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Who was jon snow fighting at the end and what did that have to do with anything?

And with the old guy telling theon to go join the knight's watch? Come on, I feel like that group is laughed at by everyone. They obviousLy will be no match for Bootstrap Bill and his band of pirates.
It's no wonder you didn't like season 2. You clearly didn't pay attention.
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I am not a hater. I have stated many times that I loved Season 1 and because it was so good I think I set my expectations too high for Season 2.
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It's no wonder you didn't like season 2. You clearly didn't pay attention.
I admit Jon Snow's part kinda bored me. But I didn't get the fight at the end at all. What was going on?
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