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Old 04-25-2011, 03:51 PM  
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Game of Thrones (spoiler-free zone)

A few have suggested it, might as well test the waters. The idea is to give people who haven't read the books a safe place to talk about the show.

A few quick ground rules:
  • No Spoilers!!!!! for upcoming episodes.
  • Larger Song of Ice and Fire discussion should be limited to the other thread although I think a tiny bit of book delving to fill in holes should be okay (example of this would be talking about Catelyn and her treatment of the wolves in the novel, which was alluded to on TV but never really made clear...)
  • Everything that happened that week is fair game once an episode airs. So if you don't watch on Sunday night, I'd stay outta here until you do...
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Old 03-31-2013, 08:32 PM   #931
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They will still surprise the book readers as they deviate more and more from the books out of necessity.

To me, it is much harder to read the books already knowing what is coming than it is to watch the show while knowing what is coming. Probably because watching takes so much less time and effort than reading.
Agreed. I kept telling my Wife tonight, "that didn't happen that way in the books"
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Old 04-01-2013, 03:13 AM   #932
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Wow. I can't believe there is no discussion of that episode on here. That shit rocked. It was pretty neat seeing them tie up the end of book 2 in that episode. After watching TWD then that episode all I can say is, that is how you write a god damn episode.
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Old 04-01-2013, 04:27 AM   #933
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Good to have what might very well be the best show on television back. No Arya, Theon, Bran or Jaime Lannister yet, but they've begun some intriguing story lines with the others so far and also wrapped up Season 2 (Davos is alive but still not trusted by Stannis, Jon Snow accepted by Mance Rayder, Tywin still abhors Tyrion as much as ever despite all the work he did...that scene was pretty intense and probably the best from this week's episode BTW).

First time we've seen Barristan Selmy since the middle of Season 1 when Joffrey/Cersei got rid of him, I believe. I seem to recall him being a man of honor much like Ned. That kind of attitude hasn't seemed to have ended well for characters so far...
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Old 04-01-2013, 05:56 AM   #934
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Good to have what might very well be the best show on television back. No Arya, Theon, Bran or Jaime Lannister yet, but they've begun some intriguing story lines with the others so far and also wrapped up Season 2 (Davos is alive but still not trusted by Stannis, Jon Snow accepted by Mance Rayder, Tywin still abhors Tyrion as much as ever despite all the work he did...that scene was pretty intense and probably the best from this week's episode BTW).

First time we've seen Barristan Selmy since the middle of Season 1 when Joffrey/Cersei got rid of him, I believe. I seem to recall him being a man of honor much like Ned. That kind of attitude hasn't seemed to have ended well for characters so far...
Stannis seems more like a puppet to the Red Lady than when we last saw him. I am wondering if there was something done when she had him look into the flames to "see his victory."

Barristan Selmy had me fist pumping. As you mentioned, he is a man of honor, but he was also tossed out like a leper. He wants some revenge, hence siding with Daenerys. Her story line is one that I am really looking forward to this season.
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Old 04-01-2013, 06:48 AM   #935
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The scene with Tyrion and Tywin was the best scene in the episode IMO. Tywin is such a pompous ass! Tyrion deserves better.
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:03 AM   #936
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The giant in Mance's camp looked amazing. Drogon pulled off some sick dives. The Unsullied looked bad ass. I'm glad GoT has avoided the pitfall that gets most fantasy shows and movies, they're usually overwrought.

Margaery is already positioning herself as the people's favorite. Joffrey and Cersei are too self-involved to realize what she is doing. that was a great episode.
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:19 AM   #937
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In the books, Selmy's true identity wasn't revealed immediately when he came into Daenerys' service - I guess they decided not to bother with that aspect.

I recognize that there will be more and more deviations from the books as the series progresses, mainly out of necessity. And I'm fine with that.
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:30 AM   #938
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In the books, Selmy's true identity wasn't revealed immediately when he came into Daenerys' service - I guess they decided not to bother with that aspect.

I recognize that there will be more and more deviations from the books as the series progresses, mainly out of necessity. And I'm fine with that.
Yea, I don't mind slight deviation here and there. So far the only deviation that I am bothered by is the House of the Undying scene in the show. I think I may know why they chose to not show it, but that is a major spoiler. Well it hasn't been written yet, but many think it is headed a certain way so I will leave it be.
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:34 AM   #939
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The giant in Mance's camp looked amazing. Drogon pulled off some sick dives. The Unsullied looked bad ass. I'm glad GoT has avoided the pitfall that gets most fantasy shows and movies, they're usually overwrought.

Margaery is already positioning herself as the people's favorite. Joffrey and Cersei are too self-involved to realize what she is doing. that was a great episode.
I was pretty pumped about the giant, to be honest. When they first reference a giant existing it's by Osha in the first season in the Godswood, but they do a good job of playing it down as wildling tales.

Dragons hadn't come to be yet and watching the show you haven't seen anything other than wights and a shadow of a white walker. At that point I was uncertain if the show was going to take a fantasy turn or not.

Seeing that everything being discussed is real and in the show is pretty cool.
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:59 AM   #940
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In the books, Selmy's true identity wasn't revealed immediately when he came into Daenerys' service - I guess they decided not to bother with that aspect.

I recognize that there will be more and more deviations from the books as the series progresses, mainly out of necessity. And I'm fine with that.
At least 48 minutes of each episode won't be minutely detailed descriptions of every dish served at every feast, so that is a bonus.
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:05 AM   #941
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The giant in Mance's camp looked amazing. Drogon pulled off some sick dives. The Unsullied looked bad ass. I'm glad GoT has avoided the pitfall that gets most fantasy shows and movies, they're usually overwrought.

Margaery is already positioning herself as the people's favorite. Joffrey and Cersei are too self-involved to realize what she is doing. that was a great episode.
Seems to me that Cersei has a pretty damn good idea what Margaery is doing.

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Started reading the 1st book last night.
The first one was a little tough for me. It is pretty dead on with the show. There are slight variations in there, but the one good thing about the book is you get a deeper understanding of the characters and such. The second book was a much quicker read for me.
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At least 48 minutes of each episode won't be minutely detailed descriptions of every dish served at every feast, so that is a bonus.
I seriously have started just skimming those parts when reading. That and the descriptions of armor, down to the clasps that their cloaks are connect to. Jesus.
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What a great S3 premier episode! Plenty of storylines moved along in just the right ways. This season is going to be the best.

Really stoked about the new dynamic that Margerie brings to King's Landing. She is far shrewder than any of the normal sized humans there (the Imp stands alone in this category). The Lannisters have their hands full with her.
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