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Old 04-28-2011, 09:14 PM  
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This was genius.

The Chiefs did not have the value at the positions that they wanted, so they traded down until they did.

They received twice as much value from the Browns (~250 points) that the jump from the Trade Chart suggested the jump would be worth (~120 points).

They traded the pick to a team that wasn't leapfrogging anybody in particular (the Colts weren't going to select Taylor).

And then they landed a player who has Pro Bowl potential, who is a deep threat, and can keep defenses honest. At a one-pick discount, too, since the Ravens weren't on the board.

All while landing us an EARLY 3rd round pick.

Bravo, Pioli. Bravo.
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Old 04-29-2011, 07:55 AM   #121
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True, but that pick was much, much more predictable than this.

To be picking 21 - then trade down, and still get a guy (most) everyone likes is unheard of.
75% of this board rationalized T Jax and Dex within two days of the draft the last two years. Picking a good prospect at a dire position of need = approval.
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Old 04-29-2011, 07:58 AM   #122
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Old 04-29-2011, 07:59 AM   #123
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So how do the Bears all of a sudden realize the Chiefs are picking Baldwin minutes before the Chiefs draft?
They don't see Carimi on the phone?
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Old 04-29-2011, 08:05 AM   #124
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They don't see Carimi on the phone?


Actually, because THEY were on the phone with Carimi.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...html?eref=sihp

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SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- Before I get to the story of the night, the mega-trade between Cleveland and Atlanta that I'm sure made Sean Payton cringe, an explanation of the weirdness that happened with Baltimore on the clock at pick 26, weirdness that is not over:

Chicago, picking 29th, and Baltimore, at 26, finalized a trade that would have had them switch slots, with the Ravens getting the Bears' fourth-round pick in return. Chicago would take Wisconsin tackle Gabe Carimi, and the Ravens, if Colorado cornerback Jimmy Smith was still on the board, would take Smith at 29. With two minutes left in the Ravens' period, the deal was done. Under NFL rules, each team has to report the trade to NFL draft headquarters at Radio City Music Hall. The Ravens called it in. They assumed Chicago called it in, but due to a miscommunication in the Bears draft room, no one from Chicago ever called the league. As the clock ticked down to zero, and Chicago was on the phone with Carimi to tell him he was going to be their pick, Baltimore noticed no one at the league had announced the trade and Chicago's pick of Carimi. Meanwhile, Kansas City, with the 27th pick, rushed its card to the desk at Radio City, taking Pittsburgh wideout Jonathan Baldwin.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1Kv9hpcwE
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Old 04-29-2011, 08:11 AM   #125
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Actually, because THEY were on the phone with Carimi.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...html?eref=sihp
I kind of feel like the commissioner should force Chicago to give the late round pick to Baltimore.
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Old 04-29-2011, 08:12 AM   #126
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I kind of feel like the commissioner should force Chicago to give the late round pick to Baltimore.
Same here.

I don't think there was a "miscommunication" at all.
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Old 04-29-2011, 08:28 AM   #127
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They don't see Carimi on the phone?
Why would he be on the clock with the Chiefs if it's Baltimore's pick?
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Old 04-29-2011, 08:30 AM   #128
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Why would he be on the clock with the Chiefs if it's Baltimore's pick?
You mean on the phone? Because teams may want to tie up the line?
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Old 04-29-2011, 08:31 AM   #129
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Actually, because THEY were on the phone with Carimi.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...html?eref=sihp
So Chicago just really f'd up and there was no backing out a trade with time still on the clock. Now that makes sense.
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Old 04-29-2011, 08:31 AM   #130
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We probably should hold off on the Pioli Cannoli Sucking for a bit.

He ****ed up the 2nd round last year, we have 3 picks today he can flush down the toilet...I still have a gif loaded in my hate-flame gun.

He didn't **** up any thing last year. Your just Danebutt hurt that McCluster not going to be slot WR. Now it's even better having McCluster run HB duties.
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Old 04-29-2011, 09:05 AM   #131
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Now it's even better having McCluster run HB duties.
No, it's not.

A slot WR provides a lot more value.

And I still hate that Arenas pick.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:29 AM   #132
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I am watching Pitt's bowl game....it's like their offense is run the ball and **** it, chuck it up deep to Baldwin...LOL
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:35 AM   #133
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Yeah, I don't really want to compare the guy to Randy Moss... he's not Randy Moss... but he does seem kinda similar physically, a tall lanky guy who has a long stride, so it doesn't look like he's running hard when he's at top speed.
nah imo Baldwin is like a young Plaxico Burress, not Moss.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:35 AM   #134
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I am watching Pitt's bowl game....it's like their offense is run the ball and **** it, chuck it up deep to Baldwin...LOL
which makes him good fit for our offense tbh
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:36 AM   #135
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