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Old 06-15-2011, 04:01 PM  
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History Education: Wonder why kids don't understand History?

This is pathetic.

Report: Students don't know much about US history
By CHRISTINE ARMARIO, Associated Press 1 day ago

U.S. students don't know much about American history.

Just 13 percent of high school seniors who took the 2010 National Assessment of Educational Progress, called the Nation's Report Card, showed a solid grasp of the subject. Results released Tuesday showed the two other grades didn't perform much better, with just 22 percent of fourth-grade students and 18 percent of eighth-graders demonstrating proficiency.

The test quizzed students on topics including colonization, the American Revolution and the Civil War, and the contemporary United States. For example, one question asked fourth-graders to name an important result of the U.S. building canals in the 1800s. Only 44 percent knew that it was increased trade among states.

"The history scores released today show that student performance is still too low," Education Secretary Arne Duncan said in a statement. "These results tell us that, as a country, we are failing to provide children with a high-quality, well-rounded education."
Education experts say a heavy focus on reading and math under the federal No Child Left Behind law in the last decade has led to lagging performance in other subjects such as history and science.

"We need to make sure other subjects like history, science and the arts are not forgotten in our pursuit of the basic skills," said Diane Ravitch, a research professor at New York University and former U.S. assistant education secretary.

Of the seven subjects on the national test, students performed the worst in U.S. history. Officials with the National Assessment Governing board, which oversees the tests, say the results aren't comparable to the other tests because different students take each exam in different years.

The scores on the history test did not vary remarkably from years past; in 1994, for example, 19 percent of fourth-grade students scored proficient or better in U.S. history.
More than 7,000 fourth-grade students, 11,000 eighth graders and 12,000 high school seniors from a nationally representative sample took the test last year.

To be considered proficient, they had to get certain scores out of 500. For fourth-graders, the score was 243. Eighth-graders needed 294, and 12th graders had to get a 325.

Judy Brodigan, who was head of the elementary social studies curriculum for the Lewisville, Texas, school district for a decade, said history and social studies classes aren't as much of a priority for school districts as math and reading. She noted that many states only test history and social studies starting in middle school, which means elementary school students don't get the background they need in the subject.

"When the foundation isn't built in elementary school, these students are coming to middle school lacking crucial skills," Brodigan said. "What it means is that in what is becoming a more and more global society, American students are more and more at a disadvantage."
Educators said history is critical to students learning how to become better citizens and understanding how the country's political and cultural systems work. Students need to not only recognize leaders like Martin Luther King Jr. and Abraham Lincoln, but also understand why they were important to the development of the country.

"Overall the quality and success of our lives can only be enhanced by a study of our roots," said Steven Paine, former state schools superintendent for West Virginia. "If you don't know your past, you will not have a future."
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Old 06-15-2011, 04:08 PM   #2
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I think the fact that most think the word, "you" is actually spelled, "u" is a bigger problem.
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Old 06-15-2011, 04:09 PM   #3
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I think the fact that most think the word, "you" is actually spelled, "u" is a bigger problem.
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Old 06-15-2011, 05:51 PM   #4
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no better reason for cutting the dept of education. might as well send billions in cash to space and dump it. end result is same.
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Old 06-15-2011, 05:59 PM   #5
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I'd like to get my hands on a copy of that test.
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Old 06-15-2011, 06:05 PM   #6
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Old 06-15-2011, 06:09 PM   #7
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Most of those kids were probably taught that the important result of the U.S. building canals in the 1800s was oppressing dark skinned people.
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Old 06-15-2011, 06:12 PM   #8
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Like adults have any sense of history...

If we did, we wouldn't be out trying to nationbuild in the middle east.
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Old 06-15-2011, 06:15 PM   #9
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And some will say its Bush's fault.



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Old 06-15-2011, 06:25 PM   #10
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And some will say its Bush's fault.



Dammit George.
Actually, it's really just a side effect of being human. By and large, we rarely learn from the mistakes others have made in the past. Hence why history has a tendency to repeat itself.
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Actually, it's really just a side effect of being human. By and large, we rarely learn from the mistakes others have made in the past. Hence why history has a tendency to repeat itself.
Direct effect of the incompetence of History Teachers, revisionist history supported by educators, and the incredible failure of more and more money flowing into education with no positive result. A national shame.
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Old 06-15-2011, 06:33 PM   #12
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I don't even remember having a history class before 7th grade. We had some pretty general "Social Studies" curriculum and learned basic history like Columbus, the basic facts of WWII and the Civil War, Basic Geography, basic government, but to ask 4th graders about canal building in the early nineteenth century doesn't seem like a very big priority IMO.

I've seen many studies and performance results that were more fundamentally disturbing than this, so this seems like a pretty irrelevant example.
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Wow. Irrelevant? A test repeated since 1994? Relevant to the US Secty of Education? And you dismiss it?

Social Studies is where history is taught in grade school, been that way since the 50's.
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For example, one question asked fourth-graders to name an important result of the U.S. building canals in the 1800s. Only 44 percent knew that it was increased trade among states....
That's not bad, considering that only 58 percent knew what both a state and a canal are.
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The National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) is the largest nationally representative and continuing assessment of what America's students know and can do in various subject areas.......

Irrelevant....and a Government agency at that....http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/
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