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Old 06-21-2011, 03:13 PM  
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Flood risk forces 11,000 to evacuate N Dakota town

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MINOT, N.D. The Souris River is set to overtop levees in Minot, displacing about a quarter of the North Dakota city's population for a second time this spring and promising to swamp thousands of structures under the worst flooding in four decades.



"We could have a really catastrophic type of event here," Mayor Curt Zimbelman said during a late Monday news conference, calling it "a sad day for Minot." The Minot Daily News reported that his comments were met by stunned silence.

The river that loops down from Canada through north central North Dakota is bloated by heavy spring snowmelt and rain on both sides of the border. The flooding in Minot, where about 41,000 people live, is now expected to dwarf the historic flood of 1969, when the river reached 1,554.5 feet above sea level. The river is expected to hit nearly 1,563 feet this weekend, according to the National Weather Service.

The 1969 flood prompted the Army Corps of Engineers to build a dike system that has been beefed up several times this spring. Zimbelman told KFGO radio on Tuesday that there is not enough time to raise the dikes any more to handle the fresh onslaught of water from recent heavy rains, and that at least 4,000 homes and businesses could be flooded. He said it was not easy to tell the community that flood-protection efforts have failed and thousands of homes could end up under water.

"It's probably one of the more difficult things I've had to do," he said. "We're not used to losing ... I think people understood there was not much we could do about it."

Zimbelman said officials are focusing efforts on building dikes to protect critical infrastructure such as the sewer system, water plants, schools and City Hall. Officials at Minot International Airport, which sits on a hill on the north part of town, issued a statement Tuesday saying the airport will remain fully operational.

Similar efforts are being made to protect infrastructure in the nearby town of Burlington, where about 1,200 people live.

About 10,000 Minot residents were evacuated earlier this month before the river hit 1,554.1 feet and then later let back into their homes, though they were cautioned to be ready to leave again quickly. They have been ordered out again by Wednesday night. North Dakota National Guard commander Dave Sprynczynatyk said the evacuation order affects about 11,000 people in 4,200 homes. KXMC-TV reported that an evacuation center was open at the Minot Auditorium.

Ann Hoggarth, who lives right next to the river, told The Associated Press that she feels numb and very emotional. She is struggling to move some of her belongings to higher ground.

"I've got three stories so I'm hoping the furniture will be OK upstairs, but I'm a single mom and I had to ship my kids off to their dad, so I don't have anyone to help me," she said.

Zimbelman said officials are considering enlarging the evacuation zone.

"We are going to become a pool or a lake," Zimbelman said in comments reported by KXMC. "It is hard to accept and believe."

All residents along the river in Ward County also are being urged to leave, including those in Burlington.

The high water is expected to begin hitting Minot by about Thursday, with the river jumping more than seven feet by Saturday. The historical record of 1,558 feet set in 1881 is forecast to be topped on Friday or Saturday. River flows are expected to hit 17,000 cubic feet per second, when the dikes are built to handle only about 11,000 cfs.

"This will be much, much higher than we've ever seen before in history," Gov. Jack Dalrymple said during a visit to Minot on Monday.

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June 21, 2011 01:21 PM EDT

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Old 06-21-2011, 03:17 PM   #2
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Old 06-21-2011, 03:32 PM   #3
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Snow makes water. Gravity makes water go down hill. People build shit where floods happen. People act surprised each time.
Not all of the time. I can't speak for this, but I can speak for South Dakota.

This year was a record event...10 inches of rain fell in parts of Montana and is screwing everyone. I was fortunate in that I am on a Missouri River bluff, but many folks are seeing flood waters that have not happened in recorded history. The Corps of Engineers is releasing 160,000 (over double the record) cubic feet per second from the Oahe damn, near Pierre South Dakota and it has screwed a bunch of folks.
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Old 06-21-2011, 03:37 PM   #4
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They have over 200% snowpack that is coming this way....Colorado and Montana snow is rolling downhill.

Was a few years ago, folks on Oahe were screaming for more water.

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Old 06-21-2011, 05:08 PM   #5
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Old 06-21-2011, 05:13 PM   #6
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Old 06-21-2011, 05:21 PM   #7
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They have over 200% snowpack that is coming this way....Colorado and Montana snow is rolling downhill.
Yep and it is going to hit the uppers 80's starting tomorrow for the first time all year and stay there. We are still WAY above average in the snow pack department in the mountains, but not for long. HANG ON, because it's going to get wet!
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Not all of the time. I can't speak for this, but I can speak for South Dakota.

This year was a record event...10 inches of rain fell in parts of Montana and is screwing everyone. I was fortunate in that I am on a Missouri River bluff, but many folks are seeing flood waters that have not happened in recorded history. The Corps of Engineers is releasing 160,000 (over double the record) cubic feet per second from the Oahe damn, near Pierre South Dakota and it has screwed a bunch of folks.
The Corp stuck by their operating manual until May 8th before they reacted. They F'd up....pure and simple. They had March/April to evacuate the snowfall they already knew was there.

It's all about politics, keeping the lakes full for recreation, worrying about the birds, etc.

Personally I'm glad to see the river run high (not this high) because in my lifetime I've seen the river ruined. We own ground right on the river on the NE side just down from the Highline and up from Sportsmans, I'm sure you know the area I'm talking about.
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This.
I have family that built a 1/2 million dollar house in Dakota Dunes. Just so they could HOB SH-NOB with the elite of Sioux city & South Sioux city.
Do I feel sorry for them? HELL NO! pissed me off when mom said she sent $1000.00 to my aunt to help. SCREW THAT!
If you farm in the flood lands i feel for you.
If you build your dream house in a god dam flood plain next to the country's 2nd biggest river. Then DROWN you dumb asses.
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Do I feel sorry for them? HELL NO! pissed me off when mom said she sent $1000.00 to my aunt to help. SCREW THAT!
If you farm in the flood lands i feel for you.
If you build your dream house in a god dam flood plain next to the country's 2nd biggest river. Then DROWN you dumb asses.
Yeah yuck it up, your tax dollars are going to pay for saving their house.
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Snow makes water. Gravity makes water go down hill. People build shit where floods happen. People act surprised each time.
Look at a landscape map of North Dakota. Minot wasn't built in a floodplain. This shit rarely happens to them. It's always eastern North Dakota that gets raped by spring flooding from melting snow.

The Souris River was a lot lower 10 years ago. What's going on is a freak occurrence, one that couldn't have been planned for years ago.
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The most amazing part of this story is that apparently there are (or were) more than 11,000 people in North Dakota.
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