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Old 07-20-2011, 12:43 PM  
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WSJ: Dearth of Demand behind weak hiring

Yes we need to fix the debt\deficit but IMVHO the biggest problem with the economy is no jobs. Get people back to work and stop paying people unemployment will go a long way to fixing our fiscal problems.


(The Wall Street Journal) - The main reason US companies are reluctant to step up hiring was scant demand, rather than uncertainty over government policies, according to a majority of economists in a new survey published Monday in the Wall Street Journal.

"There is no demand," Paul Ashworth of Capital Economics said. "Businesses aren't confident enough, and the longer this goes on the harder it is to convince them that they should be."

In the survey, conducted July 8 to 13, 53 economists -- not all of whom answered every question -- were asked the main reason employers were not hiring more readily. Of the 51 who responded to the question, 31, or 65 percent, cited lack of demand, while 14, or 27 percent, cited uncertainty about government policy. The others said hiring overseas was more appealing.

Some executives echoed the survey's central finding.

"We're hiring a little here and there -- but it's not what it should be," Daniel Cunningham, chief executive of Long-Stanton Manufacturing of Hamilton, Ohio, said. "And it's because of the lack of demand."

Long-Stanton, which makes metal parts for the aerospace, medical and other industries, has snapped back from the recession, "but volume is still not up to where it was, or where it should be," Cunningham said.

Overall, the economists in the WSJ survey dimmed their outlooks for economic growth and for two critical gears of the stop-and-go recovery that have yet to engage -- housing and jobs.

The economists have grown gloomier about the second half of the year and marked down their forecasts from earlier ones. Nevertheless, they still expected the economy to rebound in coming months and perform better than in the disappointing first half.

Source: The Wall Street Journal
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:49 PM   #2
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But...but....but....Steve Wynn said...


Yeah, unemployment and housing overhang. Those are the primary problems, and they feed off one another in a vicious cycle, dampening demand, which results in businesses not growing or hiring.
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:55 PM   #3
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:59 PM   #4
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As our universities keep training more and more foreign students here so they can go home and work for pennies on the dollar there this kind of story will repeat itself in shorter cycles.
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:01 PM   #5
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But...but....but....Steve Wynn said...


Yeah, unemployment and housing overhang. Those are the primary problems, and they feed off one another in a vicious cycle, dampening demand, which results in businesses not growing or hiring.
This agrees with what Wynn said. Housing and unemployment downturn are a result of business not engaging.

obama is unpredictable due to his inability to take a stance. Wall Street is therefore conservative. As soon as obama is replaced by a steady President who has a consistent policy outlay the Street will respond.

Do you disagree that obama is not steady in his policy making? Is it your position that Wall Street has confidence in obama?
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:07 PM   #6
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As our universities keep training more and more foreign students here so they can go home and work for pennies on the dollar there this kind of story will repeat itself in shorter cycles.
What percentage of students attending American universities are foreign?
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:10 PM   #7
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What percentage of students attending American universities are foreign?
Don't know what percentage this is but...the overall theme of the article is that the appeal of US colleges to foreingers is declining.

"...U.S. higher education has climbed out of its post-9/11 international enrollment dip and attracts more foreign students than any other country a record 691,000 in 2010, up from 475,000 in 2000, with the increase driven by an upsurge in Chinese undergraduates..."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/educati...students_n.htm
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What percentage of students attending American universities are foreign?
A quick google using 2009 numbers....2% undergrads, 10.5% graduates.

http://chronicle.com/article/Number-...udents-/49142/
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This agrees with what Wynn said. Housing and unemployment downturn are a result of business not engaging.

obama is unpredictable due to his inability to take a stance. Wall Street is therefore conservative. As soon as obama is replaced by a steady President who has a consistent policy outlay the Street will respond.

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Actually it is the opposite to what Wynn said. According to this survey Unemployment or lack of hiring is mostly because of lack of demand by consumers not because of government.
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Actually it is the opposite to what Wynn said. According to this survey Unemployment or lack of hiring is mostly because of lack of demand by consumers not because of government.

And is why spending by government has little or no impact on consumer demand.
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Actually it is the opposite to what Wynn said. According to this survey Unemployment or lack of hiring is mostly because of lack of demand by consumers not because of government.
And what is causing lack of demand by consumers?
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Why is the focus on unemployment and housing? Those are ancillary and just a footnote to what is going on. I know they make the headlines, but come on.
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:33 PM   #13
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And is why spending by government has little or no impact on consumer demand.
Was this a question?


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And what is causing lack of demand by consumers?
My guess is several reasons including unemployment, people not spending near as much because they are worried about their own situation, and no wage increases for the middle class in a decade.
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And what is causing lack of demand by consumers?
Stagnant wages, a double dip in the value of their homes, tightened borrowing, etc.

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Why is the focus on unemployment and housing? Those are ancillary and just a footnote to what is going on. I know they make the headlines, but come on.
Ancillary? You do know consumer spending is 2/3 of our economy, right?
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:36 PM   #15
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Why is the focus on unemployment and housing? Those are ancillary and just a footnote to what is going on. I know they make the headlines, but come on.
So what is your opinion then?
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