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Old 07-26-2011, 01:24 PM  
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So if the bill is Vetoed I am assuming the blame is on the POTUS?

President Obama threatens veto of any bill sent to him. Progress of a bill includes creation in House, affirmation in the House by the majority, affirmation in the Senate (again by the majority).

http://news.yahoo.com/republican-div...190608316.html

That pesky debt ceiling review before re-election really bothers this POTUS. I wonder why if he thinks he is compromising?
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:31 PM   #2
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:31 PM   #3
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Congress gets a 2/3rds majority they don't need to worry about his veto.
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:33 PM   #4
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:37 PM   #5
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Well the WH cover answer is a short term debt ceiling increase could still hurt our credit rating.

But I don't think anyone really believes that's the real reason.
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:45 PM   #6
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The blame will be on whoever people assign the blame to. However much you want that to be Obama, it won't be. Because outside of your little circle, Obama WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT, and you know that would have never happened inside your little circle.
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:46 PM   #7
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The blame will be on whoever people assign the blame to. However much you want that to be Obama, it won't be. Because outside of your little circle, Obama WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT, and you know that would have never happened inside your little circle.
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:46 PM   #8
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The blame will be on whoever people assign the blame to. However much you want that to be Obama, it won't be. Because outside of your little circle, Obama WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT, and you know that would have never happened inside your little circle.
Yeah cause the people writing and voting on the bill weren't elected, right?
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:47 PM   #9
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President Obama threatens veto of any bill sent to him.
I believe you know that's a falsehood.

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Yeah cause the people writing and voting on the bill weren't elected, right?
Don't tell me you believed the claim?!
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:12 PM   #10
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The blame will be on whoever people assign the blame to. However much you want that to be Obama, it won't be. Because outside of your little circle, Obama WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT, and you know that would have never happened inside your little circle.
I think someone is stuck in 2008 or living in the past. You don't know who will blame who nor how many of each.
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:16 PM   #11
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The blame will be on whoever people assign the blame to. However much you want that to be Obama, it won't be. Because outside of your little circle, Obama WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT, and you know that would have never happened inside your little circle.
You are wrong. I think you have to look in the mirror, and ask a hard question: "Who's little circle is bigger"?
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:19 PM   #12
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Obama WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT, .
That's past tense dude.

We are in the today right now.
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:24 PM   #13
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If any bill that raises the ceiling and gets vetoed, that's on Obama.

And it wont happen, its a hollow threat.
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:27 PM   #14
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I believe you know that's a falsehood.

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Don't tell me you believed the claim?!
All I pointed out was that the other people were elected the same way you felt you needed to point out that Obama was elected.
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:28 PM   #15
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If any bill that raises the ceiling and gets vetoed, that's on Obama.

And it wont happen, its a hollow threat.
There are already stories out about how the WH has been assuring banks there will be no default. Last night was political theater to take a jab at Repubs. Nothing more, nothing less. Pure campaign tactic.
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