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Old 08-05-2011, 08:36 PM  
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What players would you rather have than Andrew Luck?

If you had the number 1 pick in next year's draft, what players would you be willing to take in trade for the pick?
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Old 08-05-2011, 10:40 PM   #31
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Hmm...tough to say. Reggie White might be in the next draft, and we already know what we have in Cassel. I'd hate to set this franchise back when we could take a safer position, like defensive tackle.
Solid points, but doesn't the guy you are referring to not take the old testament literally? If that is true calling him the next Reggie while he is still in college might be crossing the line.
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Old 08-05-2011, 10:45 PM   #32
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:12 AM   #33
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It will be very interesting to see what Luck does without Harbaugh.
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:42 AM   #34
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Suh has a long, long freaking way before he's Reggie White.
Suh is going to be better than Reggie White. Jerry Rice is the best non-QB that has ever played the game. Suh will challenge him for this label.
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Colon is 0.7 WAR or 5M in value. He makes 500k. Getting pretty close, and since he's producing war each of the next 4 years of club control, he's fair value for Upton straight up. More than fair actually.
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:44 AM   #35
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Crazy that there's one player in the entire league that I'd put ahead of a college QB. I must undervalue the QB position.
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Colon is 0.7 WAR or 5M in value. He makes 500k. Getting pretty close, and since he's producing war each of the next 4 years of club control, he's fair value for Upton straight up. More than fair actually.
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:48 AM   #36
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Over an unproven college prospect?

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Old 08-06-2011, 12:51 AM   #37
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Suh is going to be better than Reggie White. Jerry Rice is the best non-QB that has ever played the game. Suh will challenge him for this label.
Pretty much how I see it, too.

Suh could win 5 DMVP awards and a overall MVP award or three before its all said and done if he can stay healthy.

Nobody just throws linemen out of the way how Suh does.

Nobody.
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Old 08-06-2011, 01:16 AM   #38
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Agree. Know that I will get flamed for this, but I wouldn't trade Cassell for Luck. Cassell just went to the pro-bowl. Luck hasn't done a fukn thing in the NFL. Big step up in the real world.
Another Pro Bowl QB

or even another


Proving Pro Bowl doesn't mean jack shit.
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Old 08-06-2011, 01:18 AM   #39
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Here's a fun list to make -- can anyone list all Pro Bowl QBs this team has had?
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Old 08-06-2011, 01:20 AM   #40
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Here's a fun list to make -- can anyone list all Pro Bowl QBs this team has had?
Lenny
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Old 08-06-2011, 09:44 AM   #41
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In all seriousness, I agree with many of the comments about Suh's potential greatness. Dude just had a monster rookie year and seems to be on a completely different level than a lot of players in the league.

Furthermore, I'm not as enamored with Luck as most. I like him as a prospect, no question, but I don't think he's "other-worldly" by any stretch.
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Old 08-06-2011, 10:07 AM   #42
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I just have not been impressed with a lot of QBs that have declared for the draft the past few years, yet a lot of them seem to be succeeding at a higher rate. Luck is the best I feel like we've seen declare in a while (I feel like a lot of recent QBs were largely drafted on upside, with the hope that they could be coached up). I feel like from an intelligence, leadership, and technique standpoint, he's already top notch.
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Old 08-06-2011, 10:28 AM   #43
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:28 AM   #44
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Everytime I watched a Stanford game, I couldn't help thinking I was watching Steve Young.

The same as when I watched Nebraska, I couldn't help but think Suh was a carbon copy of Reggie White.

I guess it depends if you saw Steve Young as an unworldly talent. I did.
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:33 AM   #45
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I think you guys are overrating Suh a bit.
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