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Old 08-06-2011, 07:59 PM  
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Old 08-06-2011, 08:37 PM   #2
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Old 08-06-2011, 08:55 PM   #3
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Pretty much right. What Obama doesn't seem to understand is that without some sort of reasonable assurance that the environment will be stable, large scale growth will not happen.
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Old 08-06-2011, 09:23 PM   #4
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Old 08-06-2011, 09:25 PM   #5
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Old 08-06-2011, 09:40 PM   #6
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:26 PM   #7
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So let me understand this. She is a shill for Fox News, so she's a Republican. It is the GOP that keeps saying that the Bush tax cuts have to stay in place so that jobs are created. Now, this bimbo is a hero for yelling about not creating jobs, when she is directly benefiting from the tax cuts that are supposedly in place just to create jobs? This is somehow Obama's fault, even though the biggest reason that we were just downgraded is because we didn't create a 4 trillion dollar shift that can only happen by raising taxes which the GOP fought. Lets not forget that the tax increases that the Dems wanted would only affect 1% of people in this country, and the idiots that screamed about it wouldn't pay the taxes. No wonder this country is screwed.
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:52 PM   #8
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So let me understand this. She is a shill for Fox News, so she's a Republican. It is the GOP that keeps saying that the Bush tax cuts have to stay in place so that jobs are created. Now, this bimbo is a hero for yelling about not creating jobs, when she is directly benefiting from the tax cuts that are supposedly in place just to create jobs? This is somehow Obama's fault, even though the biggest reason that we were just downgraded is because we didn't create a 4 trillion dollar shift that can only happen by raising taxes which the GOP fought. Lets not forget that the tax increases that the Dems wanted would only affect 1% of people in this country, and the idiots that screamed about it wouldn't pay the taxes. No wonder this country is screwed.
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Old 08-07-2011, 06:45 AM   #9
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She is so right on. BO would never apologize. Blame Bush yes, apologize no.
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Old 08-07-2011, 07:49 AM   #10
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Old 08-07-2011, 08:46 AM   #11
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Old 08-07-2011, 08:56 AM   #12
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Obama and the democratic leadership have absolutely NO leg to stand on when discussing the Bush tax cuts. If they believed in their heart of hearts that increasing the tax rate was the key to the economy improving and deficit reduction then they would have done it when they had a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate and clear control of the House.

But they didn't.

So they are spineless politicians that can't act on their convictions for fear of not getting re-elected (which happened anyway) or they really don't have conviction at all (re: no budget offered in the senate in 3 years).

Either way, they need to shut the hell up about the tax rate.
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Old 08-07-2011, 08:59 AM   #13
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Didn't they basically say that if our taxes weren't increased on top of the budget cuts that we would be downgraded? Essentially, not eliminating the loopholes, etc. is the cause of the downgrade and that is the republicans fault. We still have the hedge fund managers making insane amounts of money and paying less taxes than I do. Fix that crap and there won't be a downgrade. Point at Obama all you want, the republicans ****ed this one up by playing politics. Their number one goal is to get Obama out of office and they don't care if this country goes to hell in the process.

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Old 08-07-2011, 09:01 AM   #14
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Obama and the democratic leadership have absolutely NO leg to stand on when discussing the Bush tax cuts. If they believed in their heart of hearts that increasing the tax rate was the key to the economy improving and deficit reduction then they would have done it when they had a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate and clear control of the House.

But they didn't.

So they are spineless politicians that can't act on their convictions for fear of not getting re-elected (which happened anyway) or they really don't have conviction at all (re: no budget offered in the senate in 3 years).

Either way, they need to shut the hell up about the tax rate.
They were essentially trying to wait until we started to see a turnaround in the economy. Didn't happen. So now we need to grow up and take our medicine before we **** up the economy even more.
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Old 08-07-2011, 09:01 AM   #15
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Didn't they basically say that if our taxes weren't increased on top of the budget cuts that we would be downgraded? Essentially, not eliminating the loopholes, etc. is the cause of the downgrade and that is the republicans fault. We still have the hedge fund managers making insane amounts of money and paying less taxes than I do. Fix that crap and there won't be a downgrade. Point at Obama all you want, the republicans ****ed this one up by playing politics. Their number one goal is to get Obama out of office and they don't care if this country goes to hell in the process.

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Again, the democrats had two years to address this. The GOP has had control of ONE of the arms of the legislature for 8 months. How inept does that make Democrats sound?
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