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Old 08-12-2011, 11:48 AM  
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Old 08-12-2011, 11:51 AM   #2
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Sooner this gets to the Supreme Court, the better. Everyone expects it to wind up there, they really should just take up the issue now, instead of letting the lower courts rule and running up the legal costs to both sides.
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Old 08-12-2011, 12:09 PM   #3
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Old 08-12-2011, 12:15 PM   #4
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Old 08-12-2011, 12:24 PM   #5
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Old 08-12-2011, 12:25 PM   #6
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Old 08-12-2011, 12:26 PM   #7
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Old 08-12-2011, 12:26 PM   #8
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Old 08-12-2011, 12:39 PM   #9
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Sooner this gets to the Supreme Court, the better. Everyone expects it to wind up there, they really should just take up the issue now, instead of letting the lower courts rule and running up the legal costs to both sides.
This. On a case like this that neither side is going to rest on until the highest court ruling they should just deal with it now. It would save taxpayer money and this fiasco would be done and over with.
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Old 08-12-2011, 12:40 PM   #10
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Old 08-12-2011, 01:18 PM   #11
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Old 08-12-2011, 01:21 PM   #12
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Old 08-12-2011, 01:25 PM   #13
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Old 08-12-2011, 01:35 PM   #14
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Sanity prevails. Even if it is just the mandate part.
The ****ed up part is that's probably the only part of it that really actually makes sense. If you required everyone to have coverage then frankly medicare would be completely unnecessary.

If you're not going to mandate coverage then you need to make it illegal to treat someone unless they can prove they can pay. Those are really the only options. You either need to make people pay for heath insurance or you need to make sure that the rest of us don't subsidize those that refuse or cannot pay.

What's funny is that most people should actually want this to be legal. Because if the government can't require people to buy insurance, then the other legal option is to mandate a government health plan. Both achieve the same goal whereas one will be privately run and the other will be government run. When you must choose between evils it's better to choose the lessor. You're making a big gamble that at some point in the future government won't mandate a single payer system.

This is actually a pretty bad decision for everyone. It's not good for the government to mandate things, but it's also bad to ask me to subsidize your health care because you refuse to buy insurance. Unless we require hospitals to refuse treatment to those who cannot pay we have to do this.

We're ****ed...the only piece that made sense gets shot down while the rest of the garbage still is valid. Worst possible decision.
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