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Old 08-16-2011, 12:56 PM  
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"Job creator" wants to build new countries.

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Silicon Valley billionaire funding creation of artificial libertarian islands


Pay Pal founder and early Facebook investor Peter Thiel has given $1.25 million to an initiative to create floating libertarian countries in international waters, according to a profile of the billionaire in Details magazine.

Thiel has been a big backer of the Seasteading Institute, which seeks to build sovereign nations on oil rig-like platforms to occupy waters beyond the reach of law-of-the-sea treaties. The idea is for these countries to start from scratch--free from the laws, regulations, and moral codes of any existing place. Details says the experiment would be "a kind of floating petri dish for implementing policies that libertarians, stymied by indifference at the voting booths, have been unable to advance: no welfare, looser building codes, no minimum wage, and few restrictions on weapons."

"There are quite a lot of people who think it's not possible," Thiel said at a Seasteading Institute Conference in 2009, according to Details. (His first donation was in 2008, for $500,000.) "That's a good thing. We don't need to really worry about those people very much, because since they don't think it's possible they won't take us very seriously. And they will not actually try to stop us until it's too late."

The Seasteading Institute's Patri Friedman says the group plans to launch an office park off the San Francisco coast next year, with the first full-time settlements following seven years later.

Thiel made news earlier this year for putting a portion of his $1.5 billion fortune into an initiative to encourage entrepreneurs to skip college.

Another Silicon Valley titan, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, announced in June that he would be funding the "Clock of the Long Now." The clock is designed to keep ticking for 10,000 years, and will be built in a mountain in west Texas.
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Old 08-16-2011, 12:59 PM   #2
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Old 08-16-2011, 12:59 PM   #3
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Another Silicon Valley titan, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, announced in June that he would be funding the "Clock of the Long Now." The clock is designed to keep ticking for 10,000 years, and will be built in a mountain in west Texas.
The **** is this for?
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Old 08-16-2011, 01:02 PM   #4
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That's awesome.
Isn't it?

Let's bring his taxes down even more so he can build more "sovereign nations."
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Old 08-16-2011, 01:05 PM   #5
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Old 08-16-2011, 01:06 PM   #6
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Old 08-16-2011, 01:12 PM   #7
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Isn't it?

Let's bring his taxes down even more so he can build more "sovereign nations."

It wouldn't be good for the free loading 48% of this country if the self-responsible 52% found a way to free themselves of having to carry the unproductive dead weight. But it would be very cool idea for the productive folks.
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Old 08-16-2011, 01:16 PM   #8
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It wouldn't be good for the free loading 48% of this country if the self-responsible 52% found a way to free themselves of having to carry the unproductive dead weight. But it would be very cool idea for the productive folks.
So anyone who is poor for any reason is "free loading." I got it.
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Old 08-16-2011, 01:17 PM   #9
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So anyone who is poor for any reason is "free loading." I got it.
Yep. That's exactly what he said.
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Old 08-16-2011, 01:25 PM   #10
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Isn't it?

Let's bring his taxes down even more so he can build more "sovereign nations."
What are you saying, we should tax him more so he can't do this? I don't really get your point.

Seems crazy, though. Why wouldn't a bunch of pirates like the Somali pirates just take it over or demand ransom for not shooting missiles at it?
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Old 08-16-2011, 01:29 PM   #11
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Old 08-16-2011, 01:38 PM   #12
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What are you saying, we should tax him more so he can't do this? I don't really get your point.

Seems crazy, though. Why wouldn't a bunch of pirates like the Somali pirates just take it over or demand ransom for not shooting missiles at it?
I'm just saying despite the Right's efforts to erase the phrase "billionaires" from the public's mind and replace it with "job Creators" the are not going to spend their money on creating jobs. Rather, they take jobs away from the US for cheaper labor and spend their money on self-serving projects like having their own kingdoms. Their loyalties are to their pockets and not to the U.S. Just my opinion.

Look, I'm just bringing it up to your attention. I am not emotionally ready for a long heated argument (lost a very very special pet). Just take it as it is, and make your own judgement.
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Old 08-16-2011, 01:39 PM   #13
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I'm just saying despite the Right's efforts to erase the phrase "billionaires" from the public's mind and replace it with "job Creators" the are not going to spend their money on creating jobs. Rather, they take jobs away from the US for cheaper labor and spend their money on self-serving projects like having their own kingdoms. Their loyalties are to their pockets and not to the U.S. Just my opinion.

Look, I'm just bringing it up to your attention. I am not emotionally ready for a long heated argument (lost a very very special pet). Just take it as it is, and make your own judgement.
Yeah, I'm not looking to argue about it, but it's his money. If he wants to blow it on this, or move to France or bury it in his yard I don't care. I just don't see any reason to vilify him for this.
And as far as I know he'd hire US workers to build it.

Your cat would want him to be happy.

It does seem kind of futuristic and cool, in a way. Probably foolish, but whatever.
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Old 08-16-2011, 01:51 PM   #15
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I'm just saying despite the Right's efforts to erase the phrase "billionaires" from the public's mind and replace it with "job Creators" the are not going to spend their money on creating jobs. Rather, they take jobs away from the US for cheaper labor and spend their money on self-serving projects like having their own kingdoms. Their loyalties are to their pockets and not to the U.S. Just my opinion.

Look, I'm just bringing it up to your attention. I am not emotionally ready for a long heated argument (lost a very very special pet). Just take it as it is, and make your own judgement.
You're right as always. No jobs are going to be created by building an island nation from scratch. He'll probably do most of the work himself.
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