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Old 08-23-2011, 04:42 PM  
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Sly James wants gun checkpoints

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KANSAS CITY, Missouri - Kansas Citys mayor wants to arm police with greater ability to seize illegal guns. To do so, Mayor Sly James is asking taxpayers one question.
If the police were to use their authority to stop vehicles and look for guns in the areas where guns are most likely to kill people, would you support that or would you say that they were racist because they were spending a lot of time in black or Latino communities," James asked during a city business session last week.
If they want to look for guns, I got no problem with it at all, James Green said.
Near 17th and Kansas, Green watched police investigate a shooting. Officers found a man dead inside a car hit by bullets. 10 months ago, frequent gunfire forced Green to move out his Kansas City home. It drives Demetra Fanning to escort her five kids wherever they go.
(Its) because you never know whats going to go on, who's going to start shooting, Fanning said. You know, you do have to be very cautious in the neighborhoods that we are in.
I grew up in the community and I know it well, said Paula Fairley. But, at the same time, I (am) scared because I dont know who has a gun.
Im fed up with (gun violence), Green said. I just lost a sister-in-law last year, a mother of four, all because of senseless killing.
Twent years ago, too much gun violence led to the Kansas City Gun Experiment . Kansas City police, armed with a Bureau of Justice grant, selected an 80-block gun crime hotspot on the citys east side. The area had a homicide rate 20 times higher than the national average, according to the U.S. Justice Department.
Using heavy, targeted patrols for 29 weeks, police saw gun crime in the target area drop 49 percent. Homicides dropped 67 percent. With recent violence forcing city council to tighten youth curfews, police sources want to experiment again.
Its one thing to say we want things to stop, said James last Thursday when asked about his suggestion. Its another thing to say were willing to do whats necessary to stop it.
Like their mayor, several urban core taxpayers are willing to explore.
Im tired and want (police) to do whatever it takes to get (illegal) guns off the street, Fairley said.


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Old 08-23-2011, 04:51 PM   #2
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“If the police were to use their authority to stop vehicles and look for guns "

What authority is that?
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Old 08-23-2011, 04:55 PM   #3
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This guy is going to cost the city more in lawsuits than Funkhauser.
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Old 08-23-2011, 04:56 PM   #4
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Sounds like he is gonna go after the hood. More power to him, its been ignored too long.
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Old 08-23-2011, 04:58 PM   #5
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So HonestChieffan thinks gun control works?
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Old 08-23-2011, 05:01 PM   #6
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he is looking in cars for illegal guns....is that your definition of gun control mr Bo?
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Old 08-23-2011, 05:01 PM   #7
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Uh...no.

I say let those fuggers kill eachother off.
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Old 08-23-2011, 05:03 PM   #8
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he is looking in cars for illegal guns....is that your definition of gun control mr Bo?
Define whats an illegal gun.

Pulling over innocent people to search for illegal guns isn't going to eliminate crime. It's a total waste of resources. You want to improve the hood? Start implementing school choice.
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Old 08-23-2011, 05:07 PM   #9
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It's another ignore the Constitution politician. Yippee.
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Old 08-23-2011, 05:20 PM   #10
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Define whats an illegal gun.

Pulling over innocent people to search for illegal guns isn't going to eliminate crime. It's a total waste of resources. You want to improve the hood? Start implementing school choice.

They have in many cases made school choice...the choose to not go. You expect doing some hokus pokus with schools will make the hood safe, drug free and the newest hotspot to invest in? How many damn school projects do we have to fund and see fail?
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Old 08-23-2011, 05:21 PM   #11
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If the police were to use their authority to stop vehicles and look for guns "

What authority is that?
The authority strictly prohibited by the 4th amendment.
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Old 08-23-2011, 05:24 PM   #12
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They have in many cases made school choice...the choose to not go. You expect doing some hokus pokus with schools will make the hood safe, drug free and the newest hotspot to invest in? How many damn school projects do we have to fund and see fail?
Would school choice solve the problems completely? No but it's a lot better than wasting resources violating the constitution.
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Old 08-24-2011, 08:48 AM   #13
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The authority strictly prohibited by the 4th amendment.
Spot on Jaric,

Now I'm not saying it wouldn't help lower the crime rate but, Im one of those crazy people that object when people wipe their ass with the constitution even when the specific action might have some favorable results.
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Old 08-24-2011, 09:08 AM   #14
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This reminds me of a recent post I saw [at Sully IIRC] arguing that marijuana laws are racist because of the arrest disparity [which is pretty stark]. They snarked that white folk can light up in their tony townhouses with impunity, while the poor brother gets busted for lighting up on a corner in the hood.

Mother****er!! One person is lighting up in private, the other in public. That's not racist, that's a lack of common sense
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:44 AM   #15
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I seethis being no different than govt wasting our time and tax dollars on sobriety checkpoints ....which is also against the 4th amendment ..but the powers that be don't care.

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