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Old 09-10-2011, 09:49 AM  
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Barack Obachmann: gaffe machine

Obviously, this kind of gaffe makes him unfit for the office that he holds. What a dope.

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Old 09-10-2011, 10:07 AM   #2
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I can't see anything.

Is there something up with the embed code?
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Old 09-10-2011, 10:55 AM   #3
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Evidently someone else wrote the speech. /obots

We didn't have time to fact the speech. /administration

Yeah that's it, simple mistake. /obots

You'd think a former rep and senator from Illinois would know something about Lincoln. /sane people
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Old 09-10-2011, 11:34 AM   #4
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He was A founder. Not THE founder. There was no "THE" founder. Unless you have a name you want to give us?
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Old 09-10-2011, 11:51 AM   #5
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He was A founder. Not THE founder. There was no "THE" founder. Unless you have a name you want to give us?
Hey Bozo, listen to it. Founder of the Republican party..... straight from Obot's lips.
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Old 09-10-2011, 11:54 AM   #6
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Old 09-10-2011, 11:58 AM   #7
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He was A founder. Not THE founder. There was no "THE" founder. Unless you have a name you want to give us?
Yep. Anyone would be hard-pressed to persuade any reasonable person that there was anyone else more important in founding the Republican party than Lincoln--unless one wants to parse or deflect by claiming it was Horace Greeley, John Freemont, or some other such early activitist.
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:03 PM   #8
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Yep. Anyone would be hard-pressed to persuade any reasonable person that there was anyone else more important in founding the Republican party than Lincoln--unless one wants to parse or deflect by claiming it was Horace Greeley, John Freemont, or some other such early activitist.
Abraham Lincoln was simply not a founder of the Republican Party. Obama was wrong.
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:05 PM   #9
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Founder is the wrong word. As the first Republican Party president, he's the most visible face of the young GOP, but he's not technically a founder.
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:09 PM   #10
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I can't see anything.

Is there something up with the embed code?
Nevermind. I had not updated my Adobe Flash apparently.

But I agree Lincoln was not the founder.

That's hardly on the level of Bachmann though.
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:59 PM   #11
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Abraham Lincoln was simply not a founder of the Republican Party. Obama was wrong.
Technically, perhaps; but any educated person understands what he meant.
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He was A founder. Not THE founder. There was no "THE" founder. Unless you have a name you want to give us?
No, Lincoln was not even A founder. The Republican party was founded in 1854, the same year that Lincoln ran for Senate as a Whig.

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That's hardly on the level of Bachmann though.
I guess, if we want to ignore strict accuracy, we could say that he was a "founder" of the Republican party in the same way that Michelle Bachmann used the term when she claimed that the founders worked tirelessly for abolition until the slaves were freed. (Seems like it's on a level that's almost indistinguishable from Bachmann's to me).
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Old 09-10-2011, 02:08 PM   #14
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By the way, here's what White House spokesman, Jay Carney, has to say about all this Lincoln/founder business:

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He gives a good speech, but he’s loose with the facts. He called Abraham Lincoln the “founder” of the Republican Party. Nope. Lincoln was not the founder of the party; he wasn’t even the first Republican nominee (John Fremont was, in 1856). Lincoln was, of course, the first Republican to be elected president.
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I picture Robert Gibbs, everytime I read a post from Orange.
Orange isn't a dufus. He's more like Tony Snow, except without the benefit of having truth and justice on his side.
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