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Old 09-19-2011, 06:54 PM  
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Fast and Furious, Obama's nightmare continues

Fast and Furious, then we have the Solar scam...Obama can't stand much more. Or can he?

This ain't Chicago and this stuff can't be made to go away.





WASHINGTON — CBS News has obtained secretly recorded conversations that raise questions as to whether some evidence is being withheld in the murder of a Border Patrol agent.

The tapes were recorded approximately mid-March 2011 by the primary gun dealer cooperating with ATF in its “Fast and Furious” operation: Andre Howard, owner of Lone Wolf Trading Company in Glendale, Arizona. He’s talking with the lead case ATF case agent Hope MacAllister.

The tapes have been turned over to Congressional investigators and the Inspector General.

As CBS News first reported last February, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives allegedly allowed thousands of weapons to “walk” onto the streets without interdiction into the hands of suspected traffickers for Mexican drug cartels in its operation “Fast and Furious.”

The conversations refer to a third weapon recovered at the murder scene of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_16...-10391695.html

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Old 09-19-2011, 08:39 PM   #2
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Compared to the economy, this is a gnat.
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Old 09-20-2011, 02:59 PM   #3
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(The soon to be dead) Andre Howard, owner of Lone Wolf Trading Company in Glendale, Arizona. Hes talking with the lead case ATF case agent Hope MacAllister.

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Old 09-20-2011, 05:02 PM   #4
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Compared to the economy, this is a gnat.
Agreed. Unless this has to do with Bush, let's just ignore this cover-up.

I got this one, Banyon. NEXT!
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:45 PM   #5
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Holder was probably playing with legos in his office when he sat in on the conference call detailing what the plan was for handing out weapons to criminals. So I'm guessing the administration is clear on this one.
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Old 09-21-2011, 09:36 AM   #6
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Agreed. Unless this has to do with Bush, let's just ignore this cover-up.

I got this one, Banyon. NEXT!
I didn't say ignore it.

Just that calling it "Obama's nightmare" is a bit of hyperbole I think.

I think Obama's nightmare is 9.0+ % unemployment continuing into October 2012.
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Old 09-21-2011, 09:41 AM   #7
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Compared to the economy, this is a gnat.
You never know what's going to stick in voter's minds as an important failure that turns them away. A lot of people vote off a bumper sticker slogan or an email forward.
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Old 09-21-2011, 09:45 AM   #8
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You never know what's going to stick in voter's minds as an important failure that turns them away. A lot of people vote off a bumper sticker slogan or an email forward.
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Old 09-21-2011, 09:55 AM   #9
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You never know what's going to stick in voter's minds as an important failure that turns them away. A lot of people vote off a bumper sticker slogan or an email forward.
True. There were people who voted against Obama because he was going to "take away their guns". When there was no reason to believe that.
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True. There were people who voted against Obama because he was going to "take away their guns". When there was no reason to believe that.
Or hope and change.
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Old 09-21-2011, 10:44 AM   #11
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Or hope and change.
More like "shuck and jive"

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Old 09-21-2011, 10:47 AM   #12
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True. There were people who voted against Obama because he was going to "take away their guns". When there was no reason to believe that.

People voted for Obama cause he was going to close Gitmo, stop the wars, bring transparency to government, not be partisan, post all legislation online not raise taxes, and bring the country together.

Damn. Not much reason to believe anything he says/said/will say
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Old 09-21-2011, 11:21 AM   #13
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Or hope and change.
agreed

There has been no change and the hope has turned to dread.

Hence the lack of my support for him.
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:02 PM   #14
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Fast and Furious weapons were found in Mexico cartel enforcer's home

Published October 09, 2011 / Los Angeles Times

Forty high-powered assault weapons were found in the Ciudad Juarez home of Jose Antonio Torres Marrufo, a "feared" leader of the Sinaloa drug cartel in that city. The Sinaloa cartel is considered the most powerful drug trafficking organization in the world.

"These Fast and Furious guns were going to Sinaloans, and they are killing everyone down there," one knowledgeable US government source told the Times.


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Fast and Furious weapons were found in Mexico cartel enforcer's home

Published October 09, 2011 / Los Angeles Times

Forty high-powered assault weapons were found in the Ciudad Juarez home of Jose Antonio Torres Marrufo, a "feared" leader of the Sinaloa drug cartel in that city. The Sinaloa cartel is considered the most powerful drug trafficking organization in the world.

"These Fast and Furious guns were going to Sinaloans, and they are killing everyone down there," one knowledgeable US government source told the Times.


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,6431788.story
Doesn't matter Dylan.

We all know Holder and the rest of the administration are the new millenium version of the Keystone Cops. Continuing to bring it up doesn't generate new discussion.
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