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Old 09-21-2011, 10:50 PM  
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Bleeding-heart Liberal Countries (no death penalty):
Canada
United Kingdom
Australia
Germany
Austria
Belgium
Mexico
Denmark
Ireland
Italy
New Zealand
Norway
Portugal
South Africa
Spain

Conservative countries (death penalty):
China
Cuba
North Korea
Iran
Palestinian Authority
United States
Pakistan
Syria
Saudi Arabia
India
Afghanistan
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Old 09-21-2011, 11:05 PM   #2
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Bleeding-heart Liberal Countries (no death penalty):
Canada
United Kingdom
Australia
Germany
Austria
Belgium
Mexico
Denmark
Ireland
Italy
New Zealand
Norway
Portugal
South Africa
Spain

Conservative countries (death penalty):
China
Cuba
North Korea
Iran
Palestinian Authority
United States
Pakistan
Syria
Saudi Arabia
India
Afghanistan
Add Bahamas, Belarus, Belize, Israel, India, Japan, Russia and South Korea to the death penalty countries...
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Old 09-21-2011, 11:11 PM   #3
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Troy Davis execution delayed while US supreme court considers stay

The US Supreme Court has rejected a last-ditch request to halt the execution of Troy Davis, the Georgia death row inmate convicted of murdering a police officer.

The nation's highest court refused to stay the execution of Davis, who had been scheduled to die by lethal injection at 7pm EDT (11pm GMT) at a prison in Jackson, Georgia.

It took the court more than four hours to issue its one-sentence order, an unusually long time in such cases. The delay gave rise to hopes that the judges would agree to a stay.

Brian Kammer, a lawyer for Davis, said in seeking a stay from the supreme court that newly available evidence revealed false, misleading and inaccurate information was presented at the trial, "rendering the convictions and death sentence fundamentally unreliable."

As the first news of a delay came in at the Jackson prison that houses death row, a huge cheer erupted from a crowd of more than 500 protesters that had amassed on the other side of the road.

Davis's supporters kissed each other and threw placards which read "Not in my name" into the air.

But the jubilation was short-lived. Talk of a reprieve from the US supreme court quickly gave way to rumours of a stay, and finally the realisation that the court had only ordered a temporary delay as it considered the matter. The mood then grew more sombre as the waiting game that has now been going on for years with Davis resumed.

Earlier on Wednesday, Georgia's supreme court had rejected a last-ditch appeal by Davis's lawyers over the 1989 murder of off-duty policeman Mark MacPhail, for which Davis had been convicted despite overwhelming evidence that the conviction is unreliable.

A Butts county superior court judge had also declined to stop the execution.

Davis's attorneys had filed an appeal challenging ballistics evidence linking Davis to the crime, and eyewitness testimony identifying Davis as the killer.

The White House declined to comment on the case, saying: "It is not appropriate for the president of the United States to weigh in on specific cases."

At the maximum security prison in Jackson where the execution was scheduled to take place, busloads of Troy Davis supporters from his home town of Savannah came in to register their anger and despair at what they all agree is the planned judicial killing of an innocent man.

Edward DuBose, a leader of the Georgia branch of the NAACP, said it was not an execution, but a "murder".

The protest heard from Martina Correia, Davis's eldest sister, who delivered a statement from about 20 family members gathered around her. She was heavily critical of what she described as the defiance of the state of Georgia and its inability to admit that it had made a mistake.

She pointed out that the state's parole board had vowed in 2007 that no execution would take place if there was any doubt. "Every year there is more and more doubt yet still the state pushes for an execution," she said.

Correia, who has cancer, struggled to her feet in honour of her brother, just a few hours from his probable death. But she exhorted people not to give up.

"if you can get millions of people to stand up against this you can end the death penalty. We shouldn't have to live in a state that executes people when there's doubt."

DuBose gave an account of a 30-minute conversation he had with Davis on death row on Tuesday night. "Troy wanted me to let you know – keep the faith. The fight is bigger than him."

DuBose said that whether the execution went ahead or not, the fight would continue. He said Davis wants his case to set an example "that the death penalty in this country needs to end. They call it execution; we call it murder."

Hundreds of people gathered outside the prison, many wearing T-shirts that said: "I am Troy Davis". The activist Al Sharpton said: "What is facing execution tonight is not just the body of Troy Davis, but the spirit of due justice in the state of Georgia."

Larry Coz, the executive director of Amnesty in the US, which has led the international campaign for clemency, said demonstrations were happening outside US embassies in France, Mali, Hong Kong, Peru, Germany and the UK.

"We will not stop fighting until we live in a world where no state thinks it can kill innocent people."

After winning three delays since 2007, Davis lost an appeal for clemency this week when the Georgia pardons board denied his request, despite serious doubts about his guilt.

Some witnesses who testified against Davis at trial later recanted, and others who did not testify came forward to say another man did it. But a federal judge dismissed those accounts as "largely smoke and mirrors" after a hearing Davis was granted last year to argue for a new trial, which he did not win.

Davis refused a last meal. He planned to spend his final hours meeting with friends, family and supporters.

Davis has received support from hundreds of thousands of people, including a former FBI director, former president Jimmy Carter and Pope Benedict XVI.

Parliamentarians and government ministers from the Council of Europe, the EU's human rights watchdog, had earlier called for Davis's sentence to be commuted.

Renate Wohlwend of the council's parliamentary assembly said: "To carry out this irrevocable act now would be a terrible mistake, which could lead to a tragic injustice".

The US supreme court gave him an unusual opportunity to prove his innocence last year, but his attorneys failed to convince a judge he did not do it.

State and federal courts have repeatedly upheld his conviction.

Prosecutors say they have no doubt they charged the right person, and MacPhail's family lobbied the pardons board Monday to reject Davis's clemency appeal. The board refused to stop the execution a day later.

"He has had ample time to prove his innocence," said MacPhail's widow, Joan MacPhail-Harris. "And he is not innocent."

Spencer Lawton, the district attorney who secured Davis's conviction in 1991, said he was embarrassed for the judicial system that the execution has taken so long.

"What we have had is a manufactured appearance of doubt which has taken on the quality of legitimate doubt itself. And all of it is exquisitely unfair," said Lawton, who retired as Chatham County's head prosecutor in 2008.

"The good news is we live in a civilized society where questions like this are decided based on fact in open and transparent courts of law, and not on street corners."

Davis supporters pushed the pardons board to reconsider his case.

They also asked Savannah prosecutors to block the execution, although Chatham County district attorney Larry Chisolm said in a statement he was powerless to withdraw an execution order for Davis issued by a state superior court judge.

"We appreciate the outpouring of interest in this case; however, this matter is beyond our control," Chisolm said.

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Old 09-21-2011, 11:11 PM   #4
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I don't see why I should care what another country's views are on the death penalty. Either you support it as a method of punishment or you don't.
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Old 09-21-2011, 11:13 PM   #5
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And let's not forgot those paragons of freedom Albania, Cambodia, Columbia, Haiti, Rwanda, Serbia and Turkey... all of which have no death penalty....

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Old 09-21-2011, 11:14 PM   #6
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Isn't Norway the place where they're only going to keep the guy who killed 80 people in prison for like 20 years?
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Old 09-21-2011, 11:26 PM   #7
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Old 09-21-2011, 11:35 PM   #8
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Doesn't California have the death penalty?

Edit: Yes they do. States decide whether or not to have capital punishment. Uber fail, UD.
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:52 AM   #9
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I think we need to find out where the U.N. stands on the death penalty.
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Old 09-22-2011, 02:37 AM   #10
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Doesn't California have the death penalty?

Edit: Yes they do. States decide whether or not to have capital punishment. Uber fail, UD.
Yes, states decide. However, if the federal government outlawed the death penalty - it would be abolished unilaterally. Of course that would impact a lot of jobs in Texas.
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Old 09-22-2011, 06:56 AM   #11
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Yes, states decide. However, if the federal government outlawed the death penalty - it would be abolished unilaterally. Of course that would impact a lot of jobs in Texas.
True, but some of us are fighting to see less big central government control. The current move toward fascist policies is very disturbing.

Interesting how Davis is so interested in saving his own life, but demonstrated so little interest in the lives of others.
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Old 09-22-2011, 07:21 AM   #12
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Old 09-22-2011, 07:56 AM   #13
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Bleeding-heart Liberal Countries (no death penalty):
Canada
United Kingdom
Australia
Germany
Austria
Belgium
Mexico
Denmark
Ireland
Italy
New Zealand
Norway
Portugal
South Africa
Spain

Conservative countries (death penalty):
China
Cuba
North Korea
Iran
Palestinian Authority
United States
Pakistan
Syria
Saudi Arabia
India
Afghanistan
China and Cuba are Conservative countries? Since when?
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